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Vox Phantom XII Stereo

Vox Phantom XII Stereo
« on: January 24, 2011, 08:35:03 PM »
So, here's my newly acquired Phantom XII/folly/money pit!

Current job list is:

1.  Ten new pots
2.  Complete rewire
3.  New pickguard
4.  Ten new nobs
5.  New backpad
6.  Total rebuild
7.  Check the line on the neck is OK
8.  12 new gear covers for the tuning heads
9. Put it all back together

Any of you guys have any of the parts or, most importantly, a wiring diagram??

What could possibly go wrong?!





Vox Phantom XII Stereo
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2011, 08:03:27 AM »
Quote from: Sancho;15249
So, here's my newly acquired Phantom XII/folly/money pit!

Current job list is:

1.  Ten new pots
2.  Complete rewire
3.  New pickguard
4.  Ten new nobs
5.  New backpad
6.  Total rebuild
7.  Check the line on the neck is OK
8.  12 new gear covers for the tuning heads
9. Put it all back together

Any of you guys have any of the parts or, most importantly, a wiring diagram??

What could possibly go wrong?!

You also miss the switches ... Believe me, price you paid for this one and  price you will pay for SO MUCH missing parts will cost you (if you find them all) more than the price of an already complete one ... :frown:

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2011, 08:32:25 AM »
Hi Sploshette.  What a lovely positive start to the day!  I have all the switches and have sourced the other parts so we shall have to see what happens next.  As I said in the 'Introductions' thread, I'm here to learn, have fun and revive a few old guitars, so all may not be lost :)

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2011, 03:01:47 PM »
Quote from: Sancho;15254
Hi Sploshette.  What a lovely positive start to the day!  I have all the switches and have sourced the other parts so we shall have to see what happens next.  As I said in the 'Introductions' thread, I'm here to learn, have fun and revive a few old guitars, so all may not be lost :)

I didn't mean to be negative and I truly hope you will complete the guitar soon at reasonable cost. can't wait for pictures of the finished guitars here ;-)

Vox Phantom XII Stereo
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2011, 10:33:53 PM »
No offence taken, Sploshette.

Does anyone know what the controls are supposed to do?  I get the volume and tone for each side of each pickup, but what on earth is 'reverse' and why is there a three-way switch with 'off' (I understand that), 'stereo' and 'mono'.  Is this to do with output?  If so, how are you supposed to get a stereo signal from a (factory fitted) mono jack?

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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 09:38:58 PM »
Yeah, I was watching that on ebay... glad you're going to make it a good home
 
The thing is, you don't need it to be 100% stock immediately. Get it up and playing (without adding any extra holes) and replace the parts for correct ones as you go along.
 
I have restored numerous guitars, and in many cases I have bought basket cases with a few parts - stripped away the bits I wanted and resold what was left for only a fraction less than I paid originally.
 
If you are patient it parts can be found. But patience and ebay vigilence are a must!
 
Sorry, can't help with a wiring diagram, but please do keep us posted over the coming months/years/decades as your restoration continues.

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 10:44:18 PM »
Cheers Jules.  We've managed to decode the wiring from reading up on what it's supposed to do and looking at the odd google image of the rear of the scratchplate.  

We will be rebuilding it as close to stock as possible in the short term - pattern scratchplates are available and I have enough pictures to get one engraved so it matches.  It'll be a repro, but pretty much spot on so will have to do for now.  We're thinking that if we get the same spec capacitors (and make sure they're axial ceramics) we'll get the right tone.  

Pots seem to be the tricky one.  They have 'LESA' stamped on them, but there don't seem to be many (or any) of those around to the right spec.

Knobs are available from the US at $75 each.  I have two, so the plan is to take one to a precision engineer to copy.  If they're selling at $75 each, I'm thinking I'll do a big run at £15 each and start up selling Vox knobs....

What I don't get is why someone did that to it the first place.

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 01:38:42 AM »
Sancho, I purchased a Stereo XII recently, in almost perfect working order (one switch position on one pickup doesn't function properly). If you need any more details on guitar function, I may be able to help. Also, I may be able to help with wiring pics, if there is any confusion.

I was actually just searching for some Vox parts when I found your post, and it inspired me to join this forum. Good luck!

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 09:53:32 AM »
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Sancho, I purchased a Stereo XII recently, in almost perfect working order (one switch position on one pickup doesn't function properly). If you need any more details on guitar function, I may be able to help. Also, I may be able to help with wiring pics, if there is any confusion.

I was actually just searching for some Vox parts when I found your post, and it inspired me to join this forum. Good luck!


Hi John, thanks for the offer.  We think we've got it cracked for now, but I may come back tail between legs soon....

What parts are you after and, if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay?

Thanks

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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2011, 01:21:49 PM »
Nice one. I don't suppose you'd upload a couple wiring images here for future reference?

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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2011, 04:37:12 PM »
Sancho, just let me know if you get stuck. My name is actually Mike (John is my middle name). I got a really good deal on the Stereo XII--$1300, including shipping. I'll try to upload a pic here.

Jules--As far as wiring pics--I'll upload a few when I get the energy to remove all those strings. Where's the best place to post something like that?



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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2011, 04:39:14 PM »
Oh, and I'm after the following, which I posted in a separate thread:

Pickguard and mount for a Vox Constellation IV bass.
 
Pickup selector switch and/or knob for an Italian made Vox Phantom IV.
 
Bridge cover for an Italian made Vox Phantom IV.
 
Vol 1 knob from EKO era.

Thanks for any help on this!

Vox Phantom XII Stereo
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2011, 06:58:15 PM »
Mike, nice guitar and a nice price too!

You may be able to get some of those parts from Brandoni:

http://www.brandoniguitars.co.uk/

Is this the knob you're after?

Vox-Phantom-Teardrop-Volume-Control-Knob

You can also buy parts from rhoadsmusic.com but he seems to have very large dollar signs in front of his eyes....

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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2011, 12:09:23 AM »
All,

Just realised, as I sauntered on here to try to sell a couple of knobs, that I never updated this link.  

Well, the Phantom is up and running.  Rewiring it with no diagram was the nightmare to end all nightmares but it's done now and making weird noises once again.  

Still not 100% original and who knows if it ever will be but 100% good and looking 100% cool.  

I just grabbed a couple of snaps so you can see it.  There is still much to be done, but I'm pleased with progress so far, consider what a total basket case it was...




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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2012, 01:50:25 AM »
Terribly impressive to me is the unbroken yet evidently original scratchplate (pickguard)!  Phantoms and Marks are notorious for pulling away from the attaching screws, especially on either side of the neck.  Don't tighten any screws and keep it in comfortable temperatures, not too hot or cold!

 

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