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Lyle W445

Lyle W445
« on: May 17, 2011, 11:14:09 AM »
Hello all.

I'm hoping for some help here in dating this old acoustic I recently came into possession of.  It is a Lyle model W445, a clone of some type of Gibson.  Found very little info online about this brand, it was made in Japan by the Matsumoku guitar factory in the 1960's and 1970's.  

Apparently was a licensed Gibson clone (not a "lawsuit" guitar), it was distributed/sold in the US by a company named L.D. Heater Music Company, which at the time was owned by Norlin.  Anyway,  I am interested in finding out the date of this thing. I do know it is at least early 70's as I do recall my grandfather playing it around the time I was in the 1's or 2nd grade so that places it no later than 1973.. Nobody in the family can recall exactly when it was bought, the only person who would know that unfortunately passed away last year.  All the know is it was bought after I was born (1966) and that is no help..

Ok some pics:







and finally the label..



As you can see, there is the number "2196" stamped on the label.. On the back of the headstock there is a little square sticker and handwritten on it is A-1182, and finally inside the body on the neck joint there are two sets of stamped numbers.. The top stamp is a three digit number that looks like "17_"  I cannot read the last digit as it is smeared, it looks like it could be a "0" stamped over top a "2".  Finally the bottom number stamped on reads "03126".

Any clues as to the age of this thing?  The value isn't important as it is not and will not be for sale (unless it's worth 6 figured then maybe).

Any info would be appreciated.. TIA!

 

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