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help identifying this guitar - JSH/Gibson Marauder

help identifying this guitar - JSH/Gibson Marauder
« on: July 20, 2008, 04:29:46 PM »
Hi

I picked up this guitar about 5 years ago and was wondering if anyone could help me identify exactly what it is! I know its a gibson marauder style body but i dont know if its actually one of these or a rip off!!

I've taken it apart so i can clean it up, as it was in quite a state when i got it (well you will see that in the pictures!).

It seems to have the Bill Lawerence designed pickups sealed in clear epoxy, along with the 1975 3 way toggle switch.  While i'm pretty sure the scratch plate is a replacement.

The neck is similar to the bolt on Marauder neck but says JSH.  I've tried to find out about them, i know they distribute guitars in the UK and make accessories but i've been unable to find out if they actually made any guitars or if this is just a replacement neck. - The machine heads are pretty awful too!

... and for the record...  i certainly did not paint it like this!!!  It looks like it used to be either black or a dark wood colour underneath the red spray paint job.

and lastly.. while i was taking the scratch plate off the earth fell off and i dont know where to solder it too  :oops: along with a loose yellow wire that is soldered to the volume pot (i assume that goes to the other pot but i dont know where on it!) If anyone knows it would be greatly appreciated!!

thanks for taking the tiem to read this!  images links are below, for some reason they didnt appear when i used html.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee28 ... rnecks.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee28 ... erbody.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee28 ... cratch.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee28 ... ickups.jpg http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee28 ... erpots.jpg
  -thanks, Dougie.

help identifying this guitar - JSH/Gibson Marauder
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2008, 10:54:42 PM »
Hi - that's a nice 70s Japanese copy of a Marauder - I had one the same. JHS is distributor John Hornby Skewes, they would have imported this & sold it under their own brand. These days they use the Vintage & Encore brands in the UK, which you'll probably be familiar with!

Anyway, the Japanese ones appear under a variety of brands - yours is the first JHS I've seen, but I've seen these as Avon, Cimar, CSL plus unbranded, which mine was. I'm not sure who made these, it's possible that they were from Fujigen Gakki - some later Cimars are confirmed as being from that factory.

Anyway, here are some pics of mine:









Hopefully that last pic will help with your wiring problem, the only lead I unsoldered to remove the electronics was the earth from the bridge, which I think ran to the earth tab on the jack - the one with the plain wire.

These guitars were very, very accurate copies of the Gibson originals - mine was a great player, too, with an excellent neck & fretwork - quite typical of the better quality Japanese copies.

Jon.

help identifying this guitar - JSH/Gibson Marauder
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2008, 10:17:05 AM »
THANKS!

that's absolutely brilliant!! Yours looks incredible!

I've never got to play mine properly as the nut had some cardboard glued under it to add height which also meant it never stayed in tune!  But i've now cleaned the neck up and it feels excellent! I'm really excited about getting this up to scratch now!

thanks again!!

 - dougie

help identifying this guitar - JSH/Gibson Marauder
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2009, 08:20:42 PM »
Hi BASSISIN

Ive just acquired one of these, mines branded Avon.
I thought the scratchplate was a poor home made replacement but after seeing yours im not so sure.
I am remaking it though as the old one is cracked and glued back together. what I would like to know is what material yours is made from and how the edges are finished (45 deg rout or rounded) as I would like to make it as close as possible to the original.

Thanks

just as a point of interest mine had a small piece of wood between the neck and body to correct the neck angle too.

jules

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 12:40:30 AM »
Hi Jon,
 
what is yours made of? Don't suppose you have a pic of the body routes?
 
I bought a Gibson Marauder body, but it just looks too similar to yours. I wonder whether I bought a copy body. It is Mahogany though, as far as I can tell.

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2010, 12:00:40 AM »
ive been trying very hard to find more info on this amazingly well built and good value guitar, unfortunately info is scarce.

I have however heard tell that they were made in the legendary Fuji Gen factory who as it happens were also making the Gibson marauder at the same time!

if this is true then to my mind it would make sense to make both guitars on the same production line so as to save on tooling and using up valuable production space / time to make two (nearly) identical products.
this would also go some way to explaining the build quality and the quality of the woods etc used.

I have yet to find someone with an original Gibson Marauder that i can more closely compare it with, so i'm not 100% sure about this, but i am extremely happy with my find to the point it has actually become my prefered axe.

there aint no way im parting with this baby now

if anyone can confirm my findings im sure i wont be the only grateful one on here.

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 04:01:37 AM »
Quote from: hydeaspire;14796
ive been trying very hard to find more info on this amazingly well built and good value guitar, unfortunately info is scarce.

I have however heard tell that they were made in the legendary Fuji Gen factory who as it happens were also making the Gibson marauder at the same time!

if this is true then to my mind it would make sense to make both guitars on the same production line so as to save on tooling and using up valuable production space / time to make two (nearly) identical products.
this would also go some way to explaining the build quality and the quality of the woods etc used.

I have yet to find someone with an original Gibson Marauder that i can more closely compare it with, so i'm not 100% sure about this, but i am extremely happy with my find to the point it has actually become my prefered axe.

there aint no way im parting with this baby now

if anyone can confirm my findings im sure i wont be the only grateful one on here.


That's incorrect. The Gibson Marauder was made in USA, like all Gibsons.

help identifying this guitar - JSH/Gibson Marauder
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2010, 10:33:13 AM »
Just for info, (this is my first post on here too) Avon made quite a few copies of Gibsons more obscure output. As well as the copy of the Marauder, they also made a copy of the Gibson Grabber bass, only they fitted it with a sliding pickup.

How do I know this?

Years ago, a bass player in a band I was in had one.

It weighed an absolute ton though, all maple body, all maple neck, and with its size too.

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