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Another ID request, mystery 12 string

Another ID request, mystery 12 string
« on: May 10, 2010, 04:22:25 PM »
Picked up this 12 string for cheap, figured it would be fun to fix up and try out. Spent countless hours trying to figure out what it is. Made in Japan stamped on neck bolt plate. Had a whammy bar. The fret markings to the side instead of middle of fretboard are similar to a Goya, a friend thinks it might be a Kustom (Custom?) and some parts are similar to a Domino make. Neck and headstock seem to be maple, nice solid chrone tuning pegs. If no one has a good idea I might take pix of the bridge, which is kind of unique. Anyway, any help appreciated since I've maxed out online with no luck. Hoping the headstock will be recognizable to someone.


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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2010, 05:18:11 PM »
Commodore maybe? Looks a similar shape to this one on Ebay uk- though of course it could have been sold under any number of catalogue brands if it's sixties/seventies japanese

vintage matsumoku 12 string

kind of looks like it
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2010, 05:51:56 PM »
Thanks for the try, the closest thing it resembles is an Eko with the strange body shape, but for each one that kind of looks like it, there's something off. Hoping the headstock will be what allows the final answer. The headstock to me looks like a Framus, but they didn't manufacture in Japan that I know of.


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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 01:31:17 PM »
I can see the temptation to see a picture of a similar Eko and think that that's the closest thing to your guitar, but it's really not. Eko were Italian made, this is Japanese- so there's absolutely no way it's anything to do with Eko- Or Framus.

The fact you know it's japanese means you can start thinking Teisco, Univox, Commodore, Conrad etc...rather than Eko/Framus etc. I think Teisco can be discounted as well...doesn't look like one of theirs to me.

I'd give up on thinking the headstock is going to give anything away either- in the world of wacky guitars, manufacturers could borrow each others designs, or even just stick a different headstock on each of their guitars, with little or no continuity between one of their guitars and another. The only way you're properly going to identify it is by finding a picture of one with a nameplate on it, or by finding a catalogue picture- and even then, it could have been sold under a variety of names, so you might never fully know...

I wouldn't discount commodore yet. It was quite common for makers to have a bunch of similar but not identical models- and that body shape is quite close... Conrad is ringing bells too for some reason.

Conrad, Commodore
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 02:59:00 PM »
Thx for the input, yeah I was sure it was not a Framus because they didn't manufacture in Japan. I'll dig around on Conrad and Commodore. I put six strings on it last night but didn't test the electronics yet. I did take off the pickguard again and looked at electronics with a magnifying glass. Nothing on the pickups but some of the other pieces said Cosmos Tokyo on it. The body itself is lighter than say a Fender or Gibson, so I'm pretty sure it is a fairly cheap model although the tuning pegs seem of pretty solid quality. Guess it's just how they made things when Japan, not China, was the cheap guy on the block. Appreciate the help in solving my mystery.

Think I've found the answer
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2010, 11:55:35 PM »
Thanks to those who offered suggestions. Seems it is an Aria circa 1970, found this photo, attached, that has the same pickups and setup albeit not a 12 string. Someone else sent an Aria Diamond, which had the missing oval piece from my headstock, so methinks the mystery is solved. I also strung it up and plugged it in last night and it sounds sweet. No need to retrofit with new pickups, clean as it must have been years ago when last played. Now on to finding Nessie or some real mystery.


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