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Les Paul Triumphowner since 1976

Les Paul Triumphowner since 1976
« on: August 15, 2007, 02:04:08 AM »
Greetings- guess I'm the new kid around here.

I just discovered this website as I was looking around for some info about my Les Paul bass. I purchased it in new 1976, when I graduated from high school. I was looking for info on when it was made, using the numbers stamped into the back of the headstock.Best I can figure out was around '75 or '76. It has been through a lot since then. I'd love to show photos of it if I ever figure out how you do it here.

I've seen the few photos of recording artists playing the Triumph on this site. If my memory serves me correctly, back in the late '70s,I believe that I saw a video recording for the Bay City Rollers performing "Saturday Night", and their bass player using a Les Paul Triumph bass. I wonder if anyone remembers that and could get a hold of some of those pictures.

Glad to see there are many others of you who enjoy Gibson vintage basses and look forward to knowing more about you and those basses.

Rick from the U.S.

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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2007, 02:53:00 AM »
Hi Rick, and welcome to the board

Yes, Les Paul basses are well liked here. Is yours white or natural?

If you want to email me the pics i'll post them for you.

I couldn't see any Gibson basses on the Bay City Rollers clips on youtube however.......

Thijs

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2007, 10:32:51 AM »
Hi Rick,

There's another Triumph believer! Great. I'd love to see your pic's; putting them up takes some time to find out, at least to me...
Do you actually play the thing right now, or is it resting...

I play a white one in my bluesrock band. You can see and hear it on my website.

See ya!
Hombre Thijs... Tabasco!

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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2007, 01:10:32 PM »
I am delighted by the responses- many thanks.

My Les Paul Triumph WAS natural. Back in 1986, it suffered some light damage due to a house fire- a little water damage and some black roof tar dripped onto the "top", and also damaged the black plastic control plate and some of the banding. I was greatly relieved, when I retrieved it, that it wasn't worse. I was very concerned, though, because water had gotten under the finish on the neck, near where it is glued onto the body. Over time, the water began to split the laminate of the neck, and I was not going to stand for that. That, in addition to the tar burning through the finish, inspired me to want it- dare I say it?- refinished. As I never really liked the natural finish, I chose a cherry stain, and I had it satin-finished. I did not do this myself, I had a man who restores pianos do the finish work. He glued the split in the neck and sanded off the tar and the rest of the shine.

I know, I know, it is no longer original, but I had no intentions of selling it- it is MINE. Everything else is original.

Several years ago, I purchased an Ibanez BTB 5-string, which is now my workhorse. But I'll tend to use the Les Paul for the quieter, smoother music I might play, and when I strap it on, I get oos-and-ahhs from the other guitar players. As goofy as it might sound, it feels like I have gone home. The LP was my first "real" bass and I just love it.

Interestingly, Thijs, I played this very bass in several towns in Holland back in 1984. Perhaps I can someday get those pictures posted here.

Rick

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 05:59:00 PM »
Welcome again and no worries about the refin - we don't look down on that here (especially if the original fin was damaged as you say).  A player is a player.... now if your's was originally white (i.e. rare) we might be having words  :P

Send some pics to Jules; I wanna see this Cherry Triumph (my main axe is a white 76).

Thijs

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 06:38:59 PM »
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Interestingly, Thijs, I played this very bass in several towns in Holland back in 1984. Perhaps I can someday get those pictures posted here.


Please, please... put them up along with pic's of your beauty! What town's were you in, and with wat kind a band?
Hombre Thijs... Tabasco!

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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 08:58:30 PM »
Cool a cherry triumph  8) Now that I gotta see!

Welcome Rick

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2007, 11:15:57 AM »
I'd  love to see it.  I love my 72 Triumph!

Les Paul Tiumph Owner since 1976
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2007, 08:13:05 PM »
It is Sunday, 3PM Eastern in the US. I've just sent off the pictures to Jules. They'll be posted very soon.

Rick

Monday in the AM

Thanks so much, Jules, for posting these for me.

Hope you all like the tour...


There she is, in all her cherry-stained-finish glory. The stain was the same as the piano behind it- refinishing done by the same man for both pieces. It actually seems a little more "red" than in-person. Perhaps something about the camera or lighting.

There's the back of it (duh). I added the extra strap fastener myself because the bass actually fell off of me during a couple of rehearsals and a performance. You'll see it better on another photo below.

Well, here I wanted everyone to see one of the flaws of age- the neck is actually twisting. The guitar tech that works on it said it would take a bit more work than a simple truss-rod adjustment. It does affect the tuning a good bit, but that's only really noticeable as I reach about the 12th fret

Here, I especially wanted you to see where the most fearful water-damage from firefighting occurred. That ridge that you can see in the finish is where the extra glue was placed to try to prevent further separation of the lamination. Also, again notice the added strap fastener.

Above, just a decent photo of the headstock

Here, you see the control plate, a little roughed-up from use and age. Here, once again, there was fire damage to the plate which melted it around the output jack, therefore making the little triangular replacement piece necessary. That was the idea of the repair tech I mentioned earlier.

Just another familiar view of the control plate. Plus, I wanted everyone to see the bushings under the bridge cover-plate. They are thicker than stock, which were black plastic. These are made of either rosewood or mahogany, I forget which. Yet another idea of the repair tech.

This shot, you can almost see the serial numbers, 114098, and the general condition of the guitar. Almost all original parts, except for the replacements that I noted above.

I took all of the electronics out of it before taking to the piano-man, and after it was refinished, all of the guts and hardware sat in a box that I eventually lost track of. Over the years, I picked up a half-decent Ibanez 4-string and enjoyed it very much (a few years ago, I switched to a 5-string as my main bass), especially the active electronics, and I thought that I might like active for my Triumph, as well. I also thought perhaps making it fret-less. But another bass-player purist (I consider myself one, too) talked me down from that ledge, encouraging me not to make this Les Paul into a bass that it is not. I then found the parts box being guarded by a layer of dust-bunnies in the back of a closet. I took this stuff to the aforementioned guitar tech, who loves the Les Pauls, by the way, and he did all of the repairs and re installation of the electronics for much less money than I had imagined. Needless to say that I was, and still am, delighted to having it essentially restored.

I hope you all enjoy the "tour".
Rick

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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2007, 06:49:37 PM »
Thanks for sharing.  She looks good in that colour.  Glad to hear it you didn't convert it into an active instrument... though, I would have loved to purchase the contents fo that little box from you.

Also, regarding the bridge cover risers - what is the purpose of making them taller.  I prefer the thing lower myself as it can interfere with the ability of some cases to close properly, and also becuase when I use it as a palm rest I don't want it any further away from the body then it is with the stock plastic spacers.

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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2007, 07:35:59 PM »
No rationale for the higher bridge cover bushings- I think the tech just grabbed something and I had no objection. I don't think it really matters to me now, either.

When I was using it regularly in the early '80s, I played with a pick, with my favorite music to play along with back then being Kansas, Gentle Giant, and the like. I found that bridge cover handy for that. Since its "resurrection", I have returned to the two-finger picking style, and now, since I no longer use the bridge cover, it doesn't bother me.

Rick

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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2007, 01:36:16 AM »
very nice.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2007, 02:55:50 AM »
That does look nice in Gibson cherry.

Guts
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2007, 12:47:44 PM »
Do you still have the original guts?

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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2007, 08:10:42 PM »
Those ARE the original guts (I read the post 5 times to be sure).

 

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