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Just Got My Epiphone EB-0! (Added video)

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Just Got My Epiphone EB-0! (Added video)
« on: July 20, 2007, 05:34:28 PM »
I just got my Epiphone EB-0 and I thought I'd share it with you  :D

Photos:
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/4691/20022494rz9.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4213/84799293ow7.jpg

Looks really nice with the dark cherry finish, and the quality seems to be pretty good. The factory set-up and the strings are horrible though, and the neck seems straight but there is a lot of buzz allover so I guess it may need a little relief if the bridge adjustment does not help. And there is the neck dive, but I'll go and buy a good strap that will hold it in place tomorrow. The input jack also seems kind of loose but holds in place. The sound is much cleaner than I expected, with the tone all the way up and a little processor work, it can even sound like there is only a single coil pickup at the bridge :D   Good set-up, new strings (I'm thinking of flatwounds, roundwounds sounded too bright to me on this, even though I always used roundwounds before) and a nice strap will make this a quite nice piece.

Now, I had a couple of questions and if you could help me I'd be grateful.

About the bridge, the saddles don't have individual height adjustments, so are we supposed to just loosen/fasten the front single screw to adjust the height or do we also use the two main screws on the back? And the bridge is above the body on top of the three screws (i mean there is a visible space between the body and the bridge base), is that how it is supposed to be? Or is something wrong?

I'm also thinking of getting a thumbrest installed on top side of the strings somewhere between the middle and the bridge, is there a way to do it without drilling permanent wholes on the body? (I'd guess there isn't, but just asking).

And I was wondering, are there sticker type fretboard inlays that we can buy and just stick on the fretboard, like the trapezoid inlays on sg guitars.

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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2007, 01:40:59 PM »
I tried a few things with my processor, here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2nJbUlIleQ

Solved the balance issue with new strap, I had to raise the bridge and loosen the truss rod a bit to solve the rattle and buzz(the action is kind of high now, but still playable), but I couldn't find light gauge flatwounds yet and it still strangely sounds like a pinao when played with clean tone and fingers :|

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Just Got My Epiphone EB-0! (Added video)
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2007, 10:02:05 PM »
Congratulations to your purchase. The three point bridge is supposed to rest on the three adjustment screws (not resting on the body). I like that construction as long as the saddles are cut to match the radius of the fingerboard which is the whole point. Instead of having eight saddle screws you just use these three. I usually keep my three points quite level with the body. Some prefer to have the front screw raised slightly to create an angle increasing string pressure on the saddles. I've never heard of stickers to be used as fret markers and I doubt there is anything outthere that really would stay in place or even handle the wear.

I have one of the early Korean batch of the Epi EB-0 (a '97 model) and it does deliver some treble frequensies conntrary to the original Gibson Mudbucker pickup. That's mainly because the pickup is wound differently (lesser windings). Yours sounds a lot more brittle than mine which makes me think it might be the equipment you used when you recorded the clip.

Neither do I have a good idea how to install a thumbrest without drilling holes. I usually use the pickup as thumbrest when playing fingerstyle but I know many think that's not the ideal position. I liked the overdrive sound in your vid.

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Just Got My Epiphone EB-0! (Added video)
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2007, 12:18:44 AM »
Thanks for the answers, the sound in the video is brighter than its normal sound because of the eq settings and the pick, but when I try to get a fuller mellow sound, there is always a "zang" in the sound, even if I turn down the middle and treble all the way down on the eq. When it first came, I thought it was the crappy factory setup and strings, but I installed new D'addario superlight strings today (roundwound, 0.40-0.95 - both because I coudn't find flatwounds in the store and the guy said I shouldn't put strings with any heavier gauge than this) and it still sounds the same. I thought maybe it could be because the strings are new and it has been about a year since I changed strings on my old bass so I don't remember if they sounded bright at first too. I guess I'll wait for 3-4 weeks and see if these strings loose some of the bright tone, if they don't I'll try to find flatwounds.

I asked the guys at the store about the thumbrest too, they told me they could drill holes and try something if I brought it back next week, so I took out all the tools and junk at home and managed to make something that will do temporaryly, looks kind of crappy but works. Here's a pic:
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9752/91657969bo9.jpg

It is a plastic block covered with black tape and plastic see-through stretch film, I carved down one end and made a hole so I could put the pickup screw through it and added some supports under and next to the pickup so it doesn't slide when I put my thumb on it. If I can find someone who can do it, I'll have a similar piece carved from wood that goes all the way to the bridge, with a longer part that goes on the pickup so that it can be screwed with the front screw too.

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2007, 07:29:19 AM »
I suppose flatwounds would be your choice although the rounds will certainly be more mellow with age. I've never heard anyone having a problem with heavy gauge strings on a shortscale. However many manufacturers (GHS for example) only offer light gauge strings in shortscale which is probably why some people think they can not be strung with heavier gauge. On the contrary a shortscale already have lesser tension because of the shorter scale (to be in the same pitch as a longscale). I use '45-'100's but many use '50-'105's and even above that.

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Just Got My Epiphone EB-0! (Added video)
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2007, 11:26:18 AM »
If I got heavier gauge strings (for example, .045-.100 flats), I know that the tension will be higher so I guess playability will improve for someone used to playing long scales, but will the difference in thickness of the string increase the buzz, or is the difference ignorable? The action isn't very low now (but still not very bad) but if I raise it any higher it won't be very comfortable.

Edit: I forgot to ask, now I have .040-.095 strings on and if I replace them with 0.045-0.100 strings, would the bridge saddles and the slots on the nut fit them properly? Or could the bridge and the nut be designed for a specific gauge? The bridge seems like it would be ok but I couldn't be sure about the nut.

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2007, 07:17:25 PM »
You could probably use .045-.105's without problems with the nut or saddles.
Using higher tension strings will decrease fret buzz but have in mind you will need to adjust the neck relief since higher tension makes the neck bow forward.

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Just Got My Epiphone EB-0! (Added video)
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2007, 08:04:09 PM »
If anyone's interested in how it sounds, I made a short recording with my Epi EB-0, this time clean with no effects:

http://www.mybigdir.com/2346 (around 500Kb)

 

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