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Gibson comparison

Gibson comparison
« on: June 04, 2007, 06:09:47 PM »
I'm still new to Gibson basses, and I am intrigued by the huge amount of EB
and Tbird players as opposed to the Rippers.  What are the basic differences, attractions, dislikes, etc from the Gibson players, and why do you prefer it over the others?  I've only played the EBs and Tbirds in the store, so my experience is limited.  I am drawn to the other Gibs, so I want to know what differences I would expect in comparison to my Ripper.

Gibson comparison
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 10:57:40 PM »
It seems Gibson basses are a Love or Hate thing.  They are great basses, but not everyone appreciates them.  No, they are not a Fender Precision or Jazz.  They have their own unique voice and feel.  Most Gibson basses are a set neck design, and your Ripper is one of the few Gibson basses they made with a bolt on neck.  The biggest negative comments I hear about Gibson basses is that some people don't like the appearance or shape of the bass.  Yes, Gibson has made some that are visually "out there", my old RD Artist comes to mind.  The construction of the basses are good.  They seem to typically have a darker tone than most Fender basses.  Keep your eyes open, there are a lot of different styles out there.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 12:53:34 AM »
The EB basses are quite different from a Ripper. The EB basses have a real 'bassiness' that few other basses can reproduce. In part due to the short scale, set neck, and use of mahogany throughout, but largely due to the large humbucker, right up by the neck

This sound goes in and out of favour - perhaps too bassy for some types of music, but if you want a real rich basstone it's perfect.

I find that if you play with other musicians who like a wall of sound (distorted guitars, lots of fuzzy chords) the EB basses don't cut through.

In a band with generally clean guitars (most early-mid sixties bands, reggae, jazz), or a distinct lead sound (late sixties blues-rock, Cream etc) the bass sounds right at home. In a bass, drums, two guitar rock line up it can get lost.......

My most recent band had flute and clean lead guitar as the melodic instruments, and the contrast with an EB neck pickup was superb

The ripper can get pretty bassy too - and in many ways is more versatile, but it can't quite get the fat melting butter bass that most EB fans crave!

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007, 02:12:54 AM »
Thanks, both you guys have some sweet basses.  You EB guys love them I see.  I always had the P styles w/pick (guitar player too) and Maiden was my HUGE influence. But Kiss made me do it and I love Gene's sound to this day on "Dressed to Kill".  I read that was indeed the only LP with him playing a Ripper.  But it sounds fat n thick.  I dig it.   I love my inexpensive Rippers. They do seem quite versatile with a bit more boom than a P.  Ps have that cutting mid tone to me that works great w/distorted guitars.  I always hear negative things about Gib, but I think it's just another trendy view.  They are indeed unique to me.  Martin Turner's tone on "Argus" is awesome with the Tbird.  It's cuz of him alone I think of getting one.   I can't seem to give in to the EB due to my love of the giant Ripper.  How is EB3 long scale in comparison to short scale?

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 02:33:09 AM »
i think everybody likes thunderbirds(but not the price)they work for lots of different kinds of music,and look cool as hell.EB's are a little more specialized,like jules wrote.i think rippers and grabbers are more hard rock basses,they are mostly maple,not gibsons usual 'hog.the grabber is kinda weird with its sliding pickup.RD's are active.but i've never tried one. and don't forget the very underated SB450
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2007, 02:41:26 AM »
also,Ripper are my favorite basses.i just love the big wide body,it's like a girl with a big ass! (i am from Brooklyn after all. ha,ha,ha)
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2007, 10:38:19 AM »
I would say one of the things that appeals the most to me about a Gibson bass is the fact that they are NOT made by Fender, and are not a clone.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2007, 02:33:17 PM »
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,it's like a girl with a big ass!


we call them affectionately "Fat Bottomed Girls"

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2007, 02:49:22 PM »
Quote from: Gripper
How is EB3 long scale in comparison to short scale?


I do prefer the logscale EB3s to the shorts - sonically there probably is a difference, although subtle, however I am a big person, and my only real problem with the 30 1/2" scale EB3 is it seems a bit small for me when playing live - although perfect for playing whilst slouched on a sofa at home. If I recorded two clips with them, I doubt i'd be able to differentiate a week later...

Long scales just feel a bit more substantial. Having said this, the split headstock EB3s are quite true to the 60s basses, but the 72-79 version has a maple neck, different circuitry and repositioned pickup - and as such doesn't have the extremes of tone of the older version. This is not necessarily bad, its clearly a matter of taste, maybe a latter EB works better with certain types of music

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 02:30:37 AM »
Ahhh....those fat bottomed girls....this explains my Ripper Love.  
Something 'bout that big azz just pushing on you....

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 10:13:05 AM »
I guess you could call it a "Gripper". :lol:
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2007, 01:36:42 PM »
I wasn't aware of this site til I got my Ripper and was looking for info.  I actually thought I had coined "Gripper" by mixing Grabber with it. Doh!! I see it wasn't me.  Christov, you gave me a new nickname for my girl!  My Gripper.
Went to GC last night and played a Goth Tbird again.  Not bad, but not buying it for sure right now.  Ripper eats it for me.  Maybe I'm a maple fan, but the punch of the Ripper is all me.  They feel like a piece of earthly wood.
Those Tbirds seem like they are made of plastic and painted with about an inch of powdery paint.  I would still like to play a real Gib and compare.  I picked up an EBO reissue after hearing more, and while it's kinda tiny in the neck, I was surprised by it's weight.   Gonna have to get ahold of a long scale and check it out.  I'm surprised also by the fact that the Tbird has survived all these generations, but the RD did not.  I know the electronics and price had a lot to do with it, but the RD is pretty darn cool looking.  Wouldn't mind seeing that one come out again.

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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2007, 08:46:20 PM »
The last year Jules nicknamed Gripper to my bass (Epi "Ripper" from 97).

http://forums.vintageguitarandbass.com/showthread.php?221-Limited-Edition-Epiphone-Ripper-Bass

And yes, Gripper is a good name for these basses.

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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2007, 11:05:29 PM »
Quote from: Christov
I would say one of the things that appeals the most to me about a Gibson bass is the fact that they are NOT made by Fender, and are not a clone.


I agree.  Gibson is the anti-Fender bass and that pleases me to no end.

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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2007, 10:32:30 AM »
It pleases me too!!  I almost feel guilty when I am using a Fender.
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