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68 Gibson EB-3L

68 Gibson EB-3L
« on: April 26, 2007, 02:59:42 AM »
Just picked up this PRE 70's EB3L, serial number dates it to 68 and there's no " made in the USA "  stamp.  :twisted: :shock:

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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2007, 03:18:39 PM »
Hi Soundsailor, and welcome.

Interesting bass... lets see some pictures!

The slotted headstock EBs were not made as early as 68 - very late 69 until mid/late 71

The serial numbers of that time were regularly reused and the various serial number charts out there disagree and have omissions - so you can't really treat them as 100% accurate. The lack of 'made in USA' does however suggest yours is an early one. What is the serial number incidently?

I had an EB0 like this - with early 1970s pot codes
https://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/1970gibsonEB0.php

Shipping figures for 1970 group all EB3s together, whilst from 71 EB3s and EB3Ls are split. This obviously confirms that the EB3L was available from 1971, but not that any were actually made in 1970.

The interesting thing about your bass would be that it shows the EB3L was made as early as 1970  (assuming yours is an early '70)

Tell us all about it, with a few pics please!
Jules

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2007, 01:31:37 AM »
Checked the pots and they are CBA 811 1158
Ser # 913817
Slotted headstock with inlayed logo

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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2007, 01:45:03 PM »
that serial number is close to the one on my EB0 914*** probably both made in the first run of slot headstocks

The pot codes you gave are the Gibson part number CBA 811 1158 - you need the other number - usually 137**** - where **** is YYWW

to busy in the cavity to see the rest of the pot codes
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2007, 05:07:03 PM »
there's just to much go'n on inside the cavity, I could only read the gibson part number on one pot.

Check out these pics

http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/558824646TPUHUW

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2007, 12:06:13 AM »
I'll agree with Jules' evaluation. No matter what the serial number charts may say, yours couldn't have been made before late 1969 because they didn't exist before then, and 900000 series numbers were also used in 1970-72. Without the Made In USA, probably early 1970.

couldn't and absolutely are words I refrain from using
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2007, 12:14:17 AM »
well I've seen some anomalies from the Gibson factory before, and life has taught me that there are no ABSOLUTES but your PROBABLY right, but I'm PRETTY sure and wouldn't rule it out that Gibson made a few of these preproduction as early as 68, but I DOUBT this is one of them  :D

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2007, 03:17:55 AM »
wouldn't rule it out that Gibson made a few of these preproduction as early as 68

I agree that you never say never with Gibson, but I think that it is a real safe bet that slotheads were not made prepoduction in 68.  That seemed to be a redesign with the EB0s and 3s, which were still selling ok but tapering off at that point.  The Norlin era changes were after that, and it was a revamp/condensing of the bass line.  They are fun but 68 seemed to have been the end of the smooth sailing.
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Re: to busy in the cavity to see the rest of the pot codes
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2007, 03:56:52 AM »
Quote from: soundsailer
Check out these pics


yeah it looks good.... what's the bridge? You Ripper is in pretty nice condition too... and I really like your Rickenbacker 620 - very tasteful


You're right in saying that they will have made preproduction prototypes when trying new things, but all the characteristics of your bass exist in a regular production version - so there is no real reason to assume otherwise.

If you want to see a date you will have to unsolder one of the pots - go on, have a look!

68 Gibson EB-3L
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2007, 06:09:52 AM »
yes it's a beauty,,,,,,,,
That bridge is a kahler, it's something else for sure, great sustain and the intonation is spot on, so what the heck.

I'll pass on a desoder and concede to the early 70's conclusion  :lol:

This is a great site and I'm sure you'll see me pop up now and again, I have many guitars and basses pass through my milkhouse studio and l love to share my finds with the like minded............................

Oh I have a 67 Hofner 500/1 beattle bass in my future, I'll no doubt comment about it in the hofner forum

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this baby is listed in the for sale forum
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2007, 08:45:50 PM »
I've listed this beauty in the for sale forum if anyone is interested.

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2007, 10:40:37 PM »
ok, hope the sale goes well - certainly a nice bass.

And yes please share pics of anything nice you get in!

Re: couldn't and absolutely are words I refrain from using
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2007, 07:23:46 PM »
Quote from: soundsailer
well I've seen some anomalies from the Gibson factory before, and life has taught me that there are no ABSOLUTES but your PROBABLY right, but I'm PRETTY sure and wouldn't rule it out that Gibson made a few of these preproduction as early as 68, but I DOUBT this is one of them  :D
Hey I'm new and I've got the same numbers on my pots CBA811 1158 on my les paul no made in usa 900000 ish custom. I need help in determining what is going on!!

Re: eb3l
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2007, 07:39:49 PM »
Quote from: jules
that serial number is close to the one on my EB0 914*** probably both made in the first run of slot headstocks

The pot codes you gave are the Gibson part number CBA 811 1158 - you need the other number - usually 137**** - where **** is YYWW

Hey I'm new wazzup? My pots read CBA 811 1158 500k AT 1377018  on my Custom. I bought it back in '98 advertised as a '69. No Made in USA but has the volute. What makes '68's and '69's worth more than '70's?
Thx

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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2007, 01:31:09 AM »
the number 6 !
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