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What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?

What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?
« on: March 31, 2007, 05:18:56 AM »
I speak of this particular model:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Thunderbird-IV-Reverse-Bass?sku=518391

As some of you may have read in my other longwinded posts, I am looking for a bass seriously, not having had one for the past several years. Though I was hoping to get a Ripper, even the Epiphone reissue Rippers are difficult to come by (no longer in production).

I thought this might be a viable alternative (affordable, that is). For some reason, I am inclined to avoid Fender basses at the moment. I love Ps and Js and have owned several of each over the years, but I'm really drawn to a Gibby-type bass at this point. Has to be an Epi for now due to low funds.

I've read some reviews, but I'd like to hear any thoughts/opinions the folks here might have to offer. Does this model have a bolt-on neck? Is it so prone to neck-dive that it is terribly uncomfortable/hard to get used to? I much prefer the NON-reverse body style but they seem to be out of production as well.

Would I be better off to shoot for one of the (also affordable) Epiphone EBs (SG body style) or one of the Epiphone Les Paul bass models?

Appreciate any info. Thanks in advance.[/url]

What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2007, 07:01:18 AM »
PS-- stupid question about the bolt-on neck. As I recall, Firebirds and Thunderbirds have a neck-through-body with attached wings.

Or am I way off base (bass?) here?

What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2007, 07:47:29 AM »
i think the epi's use pretty nice wood,but the finish is sooooo thick.it's like armour,and the pup's are kinda blah
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2007, 03:22:39 PM »
I've only tried one of the latest version, in a store last year. It had the look, but I wasn't impressed by the tone at all.

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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2007, 02:55:09 AM »
those epi eb3 do look good,but......
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What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2007, 05:54:12 AM »
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those epi eb3 do look good,but......



...but what? Are they awful? Dead-sounding? I found a local shop that has one in black and I thought to go in and try it on for size. The reviews are mixed. Some people seem to dig 'em quite a bit, but others say the pups are pretty worthless.

If I pulled the trigger on one of the Epi EB3s, is there a recommended pickup upgrade?

Sheesh...this is hard. I wish I could hold out until I could afford a real Gibby, but I can't bear the thought of going much longer w/o a bass. :x

What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2007, 11:33:52 AM »
Quote from: Muddslide
PS-- stupid question about the bolt-on neck. As I recall, Firebirds and Thunderbirds have a neck-through-body with attached wings.

Or am I way off base (bass?) here?


I've owned two Epi firebirds with bolt-on necks, FWIW.

I've haven't played a recent production one, but I've played an Epi SG-type bass, from probably the late 90's, I believe, and I really liked the thing.  Didn't sound as good as the old Gibson one I've played, but sounded darn well close enough for the price that my friend payed for it.

I think some of the poor user reviews I've read, at least on the pickup front, are from people who've never played a Gibson bass - you can't shoot down an LP for not sounding like a Strat, but a lot of foks have no experience with a Gibson bass, and aren't going to know what to expect out of it, and if it isn't the tone they want, it doesn't matter if it's still a good tone or not, they aren't going to be happy.

What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2007, 03:29:49 PM »
opinions are not fact.
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What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2007, 04:28:30 AM »
Played a couple recently, one sunburst and one gothic.  seemed great for the money to me.  I preferred the goth.  I read in the Martin Turner interview and he called them the "teflon birds".  I took that to heart because the body of the goth didn't feel like wood almost.  wasn't bad, but "different" than I am used to.  sounded a tad stiff or rigid, but felt good and was loud in my hands.  action and response seemed good to me.   can't see how you could lose for $300.

What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2007, 07:13:30 PM »
I've got a "Snowwhite" 2006 Ltd. Ed. It sounds a lot more assertive than the 1998 model of an Epi Rev I once had. That was nice, but lame. In the meantime Epi has tweaked the pups which are now much louder, if a bit "trailer parkish" in sound. With just the front pup in action, the Epi does a credible - very credible - job of mimicking the real thing, with both pups on it strays in P bass territiory.

I have a dozen real Tbirds and one Epi and while the bolt on construction will never be able to offer the sweet sustain of a neck thru or even set neck TBird, I would not blush using the more grinding and not as much ringing Epi on stage. Alas, my band mates have ruined that option for me with their snide and uncalled for remark when I took Snowwhite to a rehearsal: "Are we now a wedding band or what?"  :oops:  How cruel men can be.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2007, 02:01:43 AM »
Surely a virginal looking bass like yours belongs in a wedding band.  :wink:

And what the hell is "trailer parkish" sound? Does that mean it really blows, like a tornado going through a trailer park?  :P

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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2007, 02:50:52 AM »
for a bit more coin,you can also get a Greco or Orville T-bird copy.much better than the epi. version & much cheaper than the real thing.
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2007, 04:22:18 PM »
Trailer Parkish = bit rough around the edges, touch of nastiness, like a woman talking too loud after just one drink? Can have its charm in an overall band sound for its grittiness. A real TBird just sounds more refined and has a more silky treble range.

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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2007, 05:47:59 PM »
I've never owned one (yet-I just got a 2nd Ripper instead), but I must admit I never liked the "look" of the thing growing up.  I always associated it with the "sleazy LAish metal" or old "Rock n Roll" from the 50s.  BUT I have been into Wishbone Ash a little while but never really saw them onstage until youtube.  When I saw Martin Turner with the T-bird it just looked very COOOOL.

What do you good people think of the Epi Thunderbirds?
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2007, 07:36:49 PM »
I like the epi. the pickups seem a little less than usual,and the body does feel a bit like a frying pan,but for the $45 i paid for it (From a disgruntled mother who was tired of seeing the thing.) i love it. If you want to fix the neck dive,put a straplock right at the heel joint of the bass. (i use duncan straplocks. any good old replacment strap button will do.

http://www.lysator.liu.se/~wizkid/music/thunderbird_mod/ this is a URL to the fix i found.
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