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EB3 from 1970?

Thijs

EB3 from 1970?
« on: February 25, 2007, 05:33:14 PM »
I have traded a (refretted, lived-through) EB3 with a Fender Mustang (guitar) today. (did I do right price-wise?)

The serialnumber is 512640, which indicates 1970.
The bridge is a tree piece, factory placed. I read that the tree piece bridges on the EB3 where not placed before 1973. Also the bridge has got plastic string-layers. My Triumph has the same bridge, but with metal-layers.
The pots are dated 137-73-44. So 1973/'74?

What do you think of it?

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jules

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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2007, 10:40:40 PM »
Looks very good. That pickup placement/pickguard arrangement only came in 72, the 3 pt bridge in 73 - so as your pots suggest it is later than late '73

The serial number was reused - not only in 1970 - so you are probably looking at '74, or even '75. Sale of these basses slowed hugely in the mid to late seventies, so one assembled in '73 may not have been shipped for some time

how are you finding it to play? Nice to see the original colour hasn't faded

Thijs

EB3 from 1970?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2007, 06:44:18 AM »
Hi Jules,

It plays quite well. Not as good as my smooth Triumph tho. There is a real difference in de feel of the neck. The best sounds to my ears are in switch 1 and 2 (more treble, byte and clear). When I choose 3 or 4 the sound gets dul, and I have to ad more Equalization from my amp.
The sustain of the EB3 is really good. It last long enough.

I came over an Ebay-item from someone in the US who made a MOD for the bridge for sustain reasons... (some sort of a metalbar where the strings go trough). Are you familiar to that? Lookes allright to me.

Does anyone have a bridge cap in spare?
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2007, 11:43:03 AM »
Might be worth getting a pro setup done on it - just to make sure you are getting the best from it......

The bridge mod is good also if your strings have silk windings that extend as far as the saddles. You can cut them back to an extent, but the mod bar is another option

There is a description of the bar on GibsonBass.com
https://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/parts/modifications.php#modbar

Thijs

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2007, 12:00:44 PM »
Ok, will consider that...

Again something curieus about the age and type... On the gibsonbass.com I saw a neckjoint corresponding to mine, but from a EB from 1970-1972..... This corresponce with the serial number. Could it be that Gibson made basses in combining (old)stock-materials with right-dated items? The picture below is from the gibsonbass.com and is the same as mine EB3.

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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2007, 12:39:58 PM »
Yes, I guess its possible - when things start to sell less, parts do hang around and get used slowly and possibly out of order. Your body is not an older one - look at the cutouts of an early 72, late 72 and a 73 EB




Yours is probably the middle style - but if the neck pockets are identical an earlier neck with larger heel could easily have been fitted. Having said this, a batch of necks with a bigger heel could also have been made.

The 70-71 necks were split headstock of course, so your neck will be late 71 early 72 at oldest.

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2007, 04:31:55 PM »
Quote from: Thijs
Again something curieus about the age and type... On the gibsonbass.com I saw a neckjoint corresponding to mine, but from a EB from 1970-1972..... This corresponce with the serial number. Could it be that Gibson made basses in combining (old)stock-materials with right-dated items? The picture below is from the gibsonbass.com and is the same as mine EB3.

Could be, in some cases. But couldn't be, in this case. The 1970-71 necks are not only slotheads, as Jules pointed out, they also are 19-fret necks, and they are narrower at the heel than any earlier or later ones I've seen.

Donnervogel has bought several of those bridge bars. Maybe he will comment. In theory, more weight does equal more sustain.

Congratulations on the bass.

EB3 from 1970?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2007, 05:00:38 PM »
I'm not a huge fan of those bridge bars - one thing an EB-3 does not need is more sustain! In fact it needs airiness, so a simple Fender bridge, while butt-ugly, might make sense from a sound perspective. The bridge bars tugged behind/beneath the bridge influence the sound - it becomes more dense - but that is kind of too much cherry pie on an EB. Much of a straight off the rack Fender P's appeal lies in that feeble, non sustain enhancing bridge and the similarly flimsy bridges on Grabbers and G 3s provide for a more sprightly sound than say a Ripper with the massive three point.

The bridge bar makes sense on a bass that sounds a little thin - not a criticism often heard with mudbucker-anointed basses.  :lol:

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