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tuners and questions for gibson ripper

tuners and questions for gibson ripper
« on: February 04, 2007, 02:58:00 AM »
Does anyone know the specifics of the tuners for the gibson ripper, such as measurements.  Or if anyone knows a good schaller or gotoh tuner that fits without modification.  If at all possible id like to put tuners in that are nice but dont require any drilling.  Plus does anyone know if this bridge listed below will fit the ripper.

BB_0333-001 listed on allparts.com

Thank you so much for any help on the long road to rebuilding a classic.
-eric

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2007, 04:17:15 AM »
THE TUNERS GIBSON USED ON RIPPERS ARE MADE BY SCHALLER
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2007, 04:57:06 AM »
Hi and welcome!

You can see a taken apart Ripper tuner (Schaller BM) here
Schaller BM

Schaller still make them, http://www.schaller-guitarparts.de/1131.htm and you can pick them up on ebay quite regularly, though they have Schaller rather than Gibson engraved on them.

Gibson ones come up a lot on ebay too - and go quite cheaply compared to other vintage parts. Certainly no need to modify your bass in any way!

tuners and questions for gibson ripper
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2007, 01:27:33 AM »
So the schaller bm fit?  I saw them listed on warmoth as bml, will these fit?  Or does anyone know a cheap place to get a set other than ebay or warmoth?

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2007, 01:49:55 AM »
Go to this site, they got everything you'll need.

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/middle_bass.htm

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 05:08:41 PM »
Quote from: gibsonbass76
So the schaller bm fit?  I saw them listed on warmoth as bml, will these fit?  Or does anyone know a cheap place to get a set other than ebay or warmoth?

BML is a BM tuner set for four-in-line headstocks. Warmoth's site says they can be disassembled and reversed. Warmoth's price is barely above wholesale, I don't think you'll find a better price on a new set.

The bridge you mentioned in your first post is not going to fit a Ripper.

tuners and questions for gibson ripper
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2007, 06:33:58 PM »
Does anyone produce new bridges for the ripper, or am i stuck to ebay?  Ive gone to a couple different sites and found a couple different bridges i thought would fit, but im never sure whats going to fit or not. Does anyone knows of a place to get one off the internet?  Thank you guys for all the help, i know these might sound like stupid questions but this is my first project and im still finding where i can get stuff.

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 09:23:17 PM »
yep, same place as the tuners

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/brid ... ketgib.htm

They are slightly different - the thread on the posts is different so you can either use your old posts, or remove the bushings (put a soldering iron in for a minute, being careful not to toutch the finish, which loosens them and they will generally pull right out*). I think the saddles and saddle screws are a little different in length too, but effectively this is a very good (and the only) replacement

Mind you there is an RD (same as the rippers) bridge up now


* I have come across one set that was twisted in, like a screw - if the bushings don't move easily they may be the screw type

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2007, 03:33:44 AM »
you guys seem to know your ish,any ideas on a 2 point bridge fix.mine leans forward.maybe deeper studs?
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2007, 01:33:06 PM »
They do lean forward sometimes, when the get old. Sometimes a combination of factors

Make sure the bushings are not loose. Over the years they can wear their holes a bit bigger - take them out and reglue so there is no movement there.

You could try replacing the two hex screws that hold the bridge to the posts, or the posts themselves, one or both are probably worn. I have no idea where to get hex screws new - probably easiest to watch for bridges coming up on ebay (there are often a couple up). If everything is tight, you may still get a little leaning, but a lot less than....

An easier fix is to put something underneath the front of the bridge. I have seen coins, leather, cork - all of which work.

This bridge was designed with a mute underneath it - which largely prevents lean - ones without the mute tend to suffer as they get old. Is you bridge slightly arched or flat. It it is arched, you could try putting a mute underneath it - this will certainly help.

tuners and questions for gibson ripper
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2007, 01:42:23 PM »
thanks,it looks like the holes for the studs are a little stretched.i'll try regluing them.also do you know any thing about those extenders that they sell on ebay that give you a little more string behind the saddle? do they do any thing?
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2007, 01:44:26 PM »
hey jules,my screws are not hex,they are flat head.are these not original?
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