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1960s Thunderbird IIs

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1960s Thunderbird IIs
« on: December 15, 2006, 11:50:10 PM »
Have you all seen the 60s Thunderbird IIs on ebay this week. One was snapped up quickly, two others are still up

The seller agreed to let me post his pics, so for posterities sake here they are (final prices up too, for future reference)

#1 1964 Thunderbird II - goldmist poly (refin) SOLD BIN ($3300)



#2 1964 Thunderbird II - pelham blue (refin)

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#3 1967 Non-Reverse Thunderbird II - sunburst, headstock repair

Gold Mist
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2006, 05:44:31 PM »
Im building a Gold  Tbird bass with black scrratch plate and hardware . Looks cool!

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Re: Gold Mist
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 05:21:31 PM »
Quote from: shadowcastaz
Im building a Gold  Tbird bass with black scrratch plate and hardware . Looks cool!


I bet it does.

any pics yet, or are you not at that stage?

Yep,Photobucket
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2006, 05:28:29 PM »
These are old because the Gold nitro is a PIA!!! I put it down so I did not do a Pete Townsend. Im workin on a couple other projects,but I pick it up all the time. Thanx for askin.



thunderbirds
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2007, 03:47:10 PM »
Did those two unsold ones get relisted does anybody know?

1960s Thunderbird IIs
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2007, 04:23:59 PM »
Head stock so far.This is a Gibby maple neck,never mounted from a Ripper. I had to add some wood to it to get the proper profile.

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maple thunderbird
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2007, 01:16:39 AM »
Quote from: shadowcastaz
Head stock so far.This is a Gibby maple neck,never mounted from a Ripper. I had to add some wood to it to get the proper profile.



So its a set maple-necked bird? What is the body wood? I assumed this was a restoration.

How did you do the headstock? have you any unpainted pics

I bet it will sound very different to your usual tbird

fascinating stuff!

1960s Thunderbird IIs
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2007, 04:42:36 AM »
It is a goth Epi mahog body . the neck is from the michigan factory. Its for an artist and or ripper. never mounted. I had to add wood to the book shape headstock of the ripper  headstock. It was un-nerving along with filling the existing  holes for the 2x2 tuners that were already drilled at the factory. I shaped it as best as I could from tracings Uwe sent me from germany. it is not as long as the older headstock(which is what I was hoping for). I routed the edges  as best as I could from what measures I got from photos and tracings, (Thanx Uwe) and bass's I could get my hands on. There are not a lot of Tbirds in northern New England. Ive got black tbird pups,hardware etc. Im workin on an old style Pontiac logo for the scratch plate because the color is pontiac gold and a buddy in high school had a gold pontiac 2 door "boat"we  used to cruise around in. I have recently started on the finish again and its coming along.
Ill look for a pic of the head before I started.I plan on using it for a template  to make a mahog  neck thru  project. thanx,Mike[/u]

1960s Thunderbird IIs
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2007, 09:50:12 PM »
Orig headstock before I added wood and changed profile.


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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2007, 12:49:35 AM »
wow - you are truly a master craftsman Mike!

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along with filling the existing holes for the 2x2 tuners that were already drilled at the factory


So that neck had the holes drilled? I have to ask again, because i'm so amazed that I can't see them.....

I can't see any evidence AT ALL... is there a 5-piece veneer on both sides? surely not

How much shorter is the headstock than a standard one then? And how much longer than the Ripper/Rd?

no neck dive for you -or maybe you will have, maple being heavier than mahogany? - does it seem well balanced so far?

How long until its ready to rock?

1960s Thunderbird IIs
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2007, 01:25:10 AM »
The pics I sent were of another neck less finished(rough in other words)The  one I used  had the 2x2 holes drilled, which I filled and sealed. If I hold it in the right light  I can make out the spots  where I filled ,but you have to look close.. I added wood  at the sides near the nut on both sides,pretty tricky. I had just enough  to trace  a profile that Uwe sent me.. I will take a pic  with them side by side. The  one Im using for the tbird and the one  i just posted are identical and had that classic open book shape.. I had to repaint the bottom side , where the strap pin goes. Now Ive shot 6 coats of nitro and Im pretty satisfied with the gloss so far. Im waiting to hear about my vintage Pontiac logo for the pickguard.  Its pontiac Gold so.......what the hell its a parts bass so I figured Id have some fun!
 I love woodworking and I decided to try my hand at guitars ,which I have always been fascinated by. Then I started playin bass.still a novice . I got 40 yrs of music in my head and its slowly making it to my fingers.
These necks are actually  for a ripper /rd bass. you could paddle a canoe with one. the side by side will show what I mean.
I did the edge by hand with my router. Im not gonna rush this time . Ive gotta fit the TB pups to the" frets on the net " rings I had made anodized black.

here is Moe,larry & curley
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2007, 04:57:02 PM »
Here are the  3 headstocks ,side by side.the unfinished  and the ripper are the same size and shape. the tbird  is about the same lenth except for the area  on either side of the nut. that is where I added wood, carved and sanded until I got the shape. then routed the edges. I believe the tracing was  from a studio t bird(Uwe sent me 2 ,which are some where in my shop)I wanted to use the longer  more narrow tracing  but I did not want to experiment that much.The tracings,which Uwe appoligized for their accuracy and squigleness, were sent email  and I printed in my office.Not having and tbirds around is a disadvantage. . Any real tracings  or photocopies would make life easier. HINT,HINT!!!
The next challenge is use the neck as a template for a Mahog neck to be set into/ through a  magog body. necks iz tricky bizness. wood is alive and moves all the time. I have a bunch of necks (maple) in various stages of shape. I leave them be for a year or 2 at a time before I attempt  refine them . some twist ,others dont.....go figure. Thats the challenge I like.More to come..................Mike


 

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