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RD pick-ups' sound...

RD pick-ups' sound...
« on: November 30, 2006, 09:56:33 PM »
hi, i've just joined... i bought a tobacco burst Artist bass when they came out. its still the only guitar i've ever bought brand new at the store. i was 18 and it was just the most gorgeous bass i'd ever seen. it replaced a '75 musicmaster. they still are the only basses i've ever owned.  i still got them and play 'em... the RD i use 1/2 round strings.

i am wondering how the pickups sound compared to the ripper and the other gibson basses. its the only reference i know for bass. never even played a p-bass!  

jef

RD
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2006, 11:55:32 AM »
The artists sound is a very active electronic sound. Great highs & lows, but not a warm passive sound.

The Ripper is much more tame in comparison.

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Finally. A Fender P-virgin!
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2006, 11:53:49 PM »
The Artist has much more of everything, compressed bottom end and crisp highs. It has a more commanding signal which does not let the amp breath as much as when using a passive bass. I use my RD Artist as a compliment to my passive basses when I want extra crunch in bass and treble without sounding snappy like a Fender. If you like the frequensies of the RD but would like to try a passive bass then you would probably like a Rickenbacker 4001/4003 or maybe a Ripper. If you're used and well fitted with the Artist you will probably find a passive bass to feel lame, but there are benefits in using the "air" a passive bass gives you. I really like the fact that yo've never played a Precision. Most have but to me they're not all that great so stay away. :wink:

RD pick-ups' sound...
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2006, 10:47:11 AM »
wow, cool info...
i never thought of the passive factor.
i actually am thinking of the rick as an option!!!
but only cause i like the mccartney tone of pepper onwards.
i guess thats why i like it ... cause its in the same area of the RDA.

so is the RDA always active? even when not using the bright and comp/exp. switches?
and are there other basses that are active which can be compared to the RD? i would be curious how it matches...

anyone here done that?
and how is a ripper to a P-bass?

thanks, jef

RD
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2006, 12:04:45 PM »
The RD has no passive mode. I have yet to find any bass that comes close to the RD & what it does. Alembic is the closest I can think of to the RD, but Alembic's have a more gritty & growly sound.

The Ripper & P bass are two different animals again. The Ripper is a more tame subdued sound compared to a P bass (or just about any bass)

RD project
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2006, 02:05:56 AM »
Hi- I'm a newbie here- several years ago I bought ( on ebay ) a hulk of an RD bass which someone had cut the body down in an apparent attempt to resemble a Steinberger style instrument. Aside from ugly it also ruined the balance of the instrument. I'm currently ( and slowly) assembling a new body for this thing which will resemble a familiar barnyard animal- will try & post a photo once it's together. Also have an EB3 ( in the shop for bridge and elec. gremlins ) and a variety of Epiphones ( Jack Casady Signature, Rumblekat, Explorer and Les Paul Sunburst ) with an old Sunn Sorado, Ampeg B25 and SVT Pro 3 amps, and Sunn Coliseum amp and cabinet and a couple of smaller Ampeg cabs ( 1X15 & 4X10 ) Whee!  Chris Rollins

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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2006, 02:11:02 PM »
Quote from: crowboy
a hulk of an RD bass which someone had cut the body down in an apparent attempt to resemble a Steinberger style instrument.


i'm not surprised that someone tried to reduce its weight a bit - they are heavy - i've seen them with slightly reshaped horns etc, but to 'steinberger' it would presumably do away with the circuit board that takes up so much of the lower half of the body

good luck with the rebuilding!

RD pick-ups' sound...
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2006, 03:14:21 PM »
hey cowboy, what are your feelings about the casady? i just looked at it on the net and think i would be interested in it... i love his bass playing.
jef

Re: Finally. A Fender P-virgin!
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2006, 09:18:11 AM »
I think this description of active and passive basses is right on the mark, and I would totally agree with forget the P-Bass, BUT not the J-Bass.  Long story short the passive bass "warm" sound is unmatched in my humble opinion by the humbucking pickup in the EB-3 bass.  It has 2 coils and wired to play in or out of phase with just a single volume and single tone control.  In its original placement at the neck the sound is more of a sensation of being in a big vibrating womb, than of actual notes played. Never having the bucks for a Rick.. and before active pups were available is just why I put the Les Paul Studio pickup in my EB-3, it delivers a very pronounced, pianolike, clear, loud, solid, sound.  I have a drawing of the wireing as it was in the Les Paul, my drawing is a little different than what is linked to the website here, but essentially the same. I have been " under the hood" cleaning up inconsistencies in the wiring.  The original wiring I foolishly let someone else tinker with. I have all my basic tone variations, but I am  missing a few of the mid-ranges from the Low-Impedance still. Just thought I would share this.  Thanks, Pete.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2006, 01:28:47 PM »
Pics?

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2006, 03:25:56 PM »
I have a sunburst 75 RIpper which has an alder body and ebony fingerboard.  The bass is very warm and it's my favorite to practice with at home.  I also have a 75 reissue P-Bass with a Fender american vintage 62 pick up.  In my opinion, the P-Bass is better suited when I play in my band, it cuts through better and seems to have a good balance between being heard and still having a warm sound.  Certainly not as warm as my Ripper but it's a good balance.  My Ripper does blow my P-Bass away when it comes to slow songs that have a lot of half and whole notes.  I asume the standard maple/maple Ripper is not as warm.

I recently went to the local guitar store and played a Jack Cassidy bass.  I knew nothing about it before playing it and just plugged it in because it looked cool.  I was blown away at the sound, by far the warmest sound I've heard.  My Ripper has a beautiful warm sound but it does lack a little in the definition department.  The Jack Cassidy seems to have the warmth and definition.  I almost regret having played it since I'm now seriously contemplating buying one.  

I've researched the Cassidy Bass a lot since playing it, the one thing that seems overwhleming about it is the inconsistency of production quality.  Some are flawless and others should have never left the shop.  If I buy one, I will not buy it unless I get a good chance to look it over.  I would never think of buying one off ebay or off a web site, the bad ones can be really bad.  The Cassidy Basses are built in Korea and I've heard that Gibson is now doing a once over and a quick set up job for the basses when they arrive in the US.  Because of this, "Factory Seconds" are starting to surface.  I've seen one or two pop up on ebay.  These "seconds" are what the Gibson quality control felt were not good enough to be sold at retail price.

 

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