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Project EB-0 the complete photo history

Project EB-0 the complete photo history
« on: May 12, 2006, 02:05:58 PM »
Hold on to your seat as I get out the photo ablum, stay awake now!
A slot head EB-0 that had a new custom made neck grafted on and a routed cavity under the bridge to lower the action.



The headstock holes were so small only Sperzel locking tuners would fit.

lay out
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2006, 02:09:33 PM »
I gave the bass as a present to my teenage son as a father son project.
He wanted to hot rod the bass and since it had no real value anymore, we did. We added a Rio Grande Pit Bull pickup and a Big D Varitone (not a real varitone).

Routed and paint
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2006, 02:15:08 PM »
I routed the second pickup cavity and then used BIN's shellac primer as a sealer coat to keep the red stain from bleeding through.


next we painted it ReRanch white and sprayed a Yellow tint coat. My son tried his hand at rattle can painting and hads some runs, etc. After wet sanding the bass and a slight misshap to the finish we sanded through the yellow tint and winter set in. It ended up flat, but looked like someone had a wee wee party on it.

Finally!
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2006, 02:21:23 PM »
Spring came and a warm dry one at that!

We just repainted the bass ReRanch white again with no clear coat.
When finished assembly problems arose. The new neck was mounted to low for the mudbucker, which now was taller than the neck!

I routed the cavities 1/4" lower and had my luthier who built my Fenderbird wire & set it up. It turned out pretty good after all.





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white EB0
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2006, 02:31:52 PM »
wow, that really does look great - turned out very well indeed.

Are you going to put on a bridge cover?


EBs always look great in white don't they

Cover
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2006, 02:44:26 PM »
Yes, I would like to put a bridge cover on it, but do not have one and they have been too high priced on E Bay - going for more than half of what I paid for the original bass. I bought it for $189 and have a total of about $400 in it at this point.

I wanted to thank you for recommending the D'Adarrio short scale rounds. They sound pretty good and do give the bass some treble, bite and harmonics. The Pit Bull helps as well.

These basses look so cool in white and most people refin them like that. You have to wonder why Gibson does not offer it, instead of black on the new SG Bass.

White is not metal enough.

well worth waiting for
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2006, 02:51:57 PM »
you've done a great job with that.

that pitbull looks right too. Reranch seems pretty impressive - how much did it cost to do this bass?

Cost
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2006, 04:06:36 PM »
I bought it for $189 and have a total of about $400 in it

jim66

Re: Cost
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2006, 02:17:05 PM »
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I bought it for $189 and have a total of about $400 in it


thats quite impressive.  What was the breakdown of the costs? it seems you did quite a lot of work yourself. How much did the neck cost to make, or did you do it yourself? Are you a luthier?

very nice looking bass

james

Project EB-0 the complete photo history
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2006, 11:55:46 AM »
That's a great looking bass, how does that Pit Bull pup sound compared to the standard EB bridge pup?

Graham

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2006, 12:49:49 PM »
In no way am I a luthier, but I have had experience working with wood, painting and simple electronics. I have a machine shop at work to do routing. The Reranch forum & Kevbo taught me about refinishing basses. It's not really that hard, just time consuming and with painting you are at the whim of the weather.

$189.00 - Bass that already had the new neck, bridge & Mudbucker.
$105.00 - Rio Grande Pit bull
$120.00 - ReRanch Paint
$50.00  -  Big D Varitone
$14.00 - replacement pickguard

Had the pots, knobs, BIN's Primer and Darrin Huff gave me the Sperzel Tuners

Total $478, so I guess really it was about $500 when you add it up. You forget the nickel & dime stuff that adds up.

Sounds like
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2006, 02:53:03 PM »
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how does that Pit Bull pup sound compared to the standard EB bridge pup?


I can't answer that because this was originally an EB-0. Also, I never had a Gibson EB-3 , but did have an Epi EB-3 for a very short time (which I do not really remember).

 Both pickups are effected by the Big D Varitone. The Rio Grande is connected to a series/parallel switch. There are so many variations. Even with the Varitone off the sound changes so much with where you play on the string or with a pick, etc.  There are five positions on the Varitone (which is not a true Gibson Varitone but a series of filters). It does not wire to the pickups, but just the output jack.
http://www.bigdguitars.com/links.htm
http://www.bigdguitars.com/varitonespec.htm

I will post s song I recorded with it soon.

With all the combinations it's daunting. It's like a box of crayons with half of the colors all bright and warm and the other half all muddy Earth tones.

So far what I discovered is surprising.

With both pickups on full you can play near the bridge for a articulate treble compressed Peter Hook type sound, then play near the neck and get the Mudbucker oomph and switch back in forth during a song, totally changing your sound by just where you play on it.

Everything sounds better played with a pick (more defined sound).

The Pitt Bull, to me sounds best in single coil sound mode. You can get great harmonics, not the longest sustain. It cuts through the blurryness of the Mahogany.

The Varitone has two loud settings, one where it sounds overdriven and the other overdriven with grit. The other three settings are real weak and need a lot of boost, but sound unique as well. Because of the difference in levels, you could not just flip around on the switch while playing without dropouts or huge sound blasts during a song.

The mudbucker with the Varitone only seems to work with the two overdriven settings. One setting gives it more Punch and the other more Judy (Grit). As others have discovered, the mudbucker sounds great through an overdrive or distortion box. Trebless, but really warm & fuzzy.

With both pickups on, you can adjust either pup just slightly in the mix and get even more sounds.

Little Larva
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2006, 02:51:38 PM »
Here is a song I recorded using the EB-0. It's "Little Larva". It has a Neu/Ashra vibe to it. Please do not take this serious; it's more of a test bed.

I even found a female singer to sing on it!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=41630687

The song uses just the EB-0 & drum machine.

Tracks-
Drum machine
 
Bass track is the MudBucker & Rio Grande on full no varitone.i go from playing over the mudbucker for the deep bass to the bridge for a plucky sound.

The melodic/rhythm bass is the Pit Bull with the Varitone boost played with a pick right near the bridge. You get a compressed Peter Hook type sound. No effects used

The fuzz bass is one octave up using just the mudbucker/no treble & the Black Big Muff pedal.

The lead bass is two octaves up using the Rio Grande with the Varitone in one of the low output settings with a bit of reverb.

The bubble bass is just the Mudbucker.

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many sounds from an EB3
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2006, 12:32:57 PM »
nice one John - that bass certainly has got a lot of different sounds, and you've certainly used them!

I like the track 'lost' too - tell me thats not all 1 bass.......


Jules

Lost
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2006, 06:30:23 PM »
Lost was when I just got my Fenderbird -

The tracks as follows

Lead basses (Bass vomit beginning)  RD with Kahler, harmonics with boss overdrive. Rear pickup treble boost all the way up!
Chord bass - thunderbird non reverse.
Poppy melodic bass is the Fenderbird with compression

The bass Vomit beginning was an accident while I was just trying different settings. I just hit the note and knew I had to keep it.

 

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