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nineties epiphone bass - advice please

nineties epiphone bass - advice please
« on: April 22, 2010, 09:54:40 AM »
Hi - I have owned a red semi acoustic epiphone bass for about 8 years. I know it was issued in the nineties, but can't find any information on it. I am pretty sure it was a 'budget version', since it used things like black plastic machine heads. Over the years things became unreliable - crackling pots etc.

However, it looks pretty good, and I like the small neck. I am now playing in a retro band, and am thinking of getting it renovated. I aim to put better machine heads on (the bottom e string head is slipping), and want to get all the wiring re-done, as nothing works at present. Possibly also may consider better pickups.

I wonder whether anyone can tell me if these particular basses are actually any good (i know that's a bit subjective), and whether it would be worth me spending a bit of money on it, to improve it. Also, any advice on spares/parts that would add to the value and be in the spirit of the bass.

In this picture the bass looks like it has a more wooden finish, it actually is a bright red sunburst in real life. Will upload some closer shots if that helps.

Thanks

nineties epiphone bass - advice please
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2010, 02:52:43 PM »
I can't help you - but maybe you can help me... what model is that?  I'm looking for a budget bass exactly like that for a project.

Edit - I found a forum that should be able to help:  http://forums.epiphone.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=5

Looks like it may be a Rivoli Reissue?
« Last Edit: April 22, 2010, 03:16:33 PM by Rusty the Scoob »

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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2010, 03:51:10 PM »
Are you sure it is 90s? the 90s Rivolis had a three pointer didn't they?
 
Looks like one of those 70s Epiphobes - but sorry, I don't know any model numbers
 
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2010, 03:52:51 PM »
heres a 90s Rivoli... it isn't one of these
[URLhttps://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/jump3/30/forum2629]EPIPHONE-RIVOLI-VC-Bass-Guitar-Sunburst[/URL]

nineties epiphone bass - advice please
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2010, 04:28:20 PM »
I don't know what model it is - hoping someone here could give me a name. I saw the current ebay ad for the Rivoli, and that made me think that my bass is definitely not a Rivoli - only thing they have in common is the shape. The listed Rivoli looks better quality - although not sure about that repair to the back of the neck  - than mine, having metal tuners, humbucker etc.

Mr Bass - I've never heard of a seventies epiphobe. It may well be a seventies model, I had never considered that.

Thanks, bass cases, for replies so far !

nineties epiphone bass - advice please
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2010, 07:05:46 PM »
Epiphone EA-260 from the 70s.

nineties epiphone bass - advice please
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2010, 07:42:06 PM »
That's a fine looking instrument and if you like it then spend the money on it. If the frets are OK then pots and wiring should not be too much to replace.

Let the collectors worry about value you just enjoy it.

nineties epiphone bass - advice please
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2010, 10:25:14 AM »
Lefty Bass - I think you're right. I googled EA-260 and came across this 1974 Epiphone catalogue

http://www.matsumoku.org/models/epiphone/catalogs/1974/pg5.html

The EA-260 pictured has different pickups and a slightly modified bridge -my bass has probably lost a bridge cover, and has had the original pickups changed, but there's no mistaking it - it definitely IS an EA-260.

To be honest I'm amazed that it is maybe 20 years older than I imagined. Thanks everyone for your help with this. And Vortilon - Your sentiments are spot on, it's really important to enjoy these vintage instruments, not treat them like investments.

nineties epiphone bass - advice please
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2010, 07:18:50 PM »
Back in the late 70s/early 80s, during the "glory days" of pawn shop guitar shopping, ANY pawn shop you walked into, no matter what city you were in, had one of these basses for sale.

gronk

nineties epiphone bass - advice please
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2010, 02:18:32 AM »
Actually I think ye'll find its not an EA 260 but an earlier 5120E. I know cos I have the very same bass and I believe mine to date from bout '70-'71. Some early ones were made in US before transferring to Japan. Mines a jap one. As you can see its similar to the EA 260 but the pickups are black and original, yours seems to have 1 original and 1 replacement tho maybe I just can't see it clearly on that pic. Surprised it doesnt have a blue label inside the top f hole telling you the model. My serial is 74005.  

The only piece missing off mine is a cover that used to hide the saddles! Mine also suffers from slightly loose tuners and I had to get abit of wiring sorted to stop it crackling but now it has a great tone.Cosmetically its in great condition, just a few light cracks around the neck join. I like the woody sound from the floating bridge n tailpiece though I find the neck whilst being slim, abit too much of a chunky D profile for me! Original case too which is falling apart!

As for rarity I struggled to find much info on them when I bought mine off Ebay 2 years ago. At the time there was 1 girl on a bass forum in Germany who owned one and I've seen 2 incomplete bodies on ebay since with no hardware. Whether this means they're good and rare or rare cos they failed and were sent to the great guitarskip in the sky who knows but mine works and its nice to have somert abit different! Saying that I'm probs gonna sell it to fund my '63 Rivoli project. Nice as it is, I don't think I need 2 hollow body epi's!

Hope this was some help to ya! In just a few days you've added bout 40 years onto your bass!!!





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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2010, 10:42:02 AM »
Cheers for that Gronk - this is real guitar detective work:)  It seems to be closer to the 5120E than the EA-260 - same pickups. colour, silver plate on back of the neck. The only difference here seems to be the tailpiece, which is a slightly different design. Came across this - very similar, closest yet in fact -

http://www.elderly.com/items/55U-3114.htm

There seems to be some disputing about the pedigree of these guitars - whether they were Kalamazoo, Michigan made, or Japanese. Am I right that 'Union Made' epiphones were made in the sixties, but all seventies basses of this sort were Japanese? Are there any ways to distinguish the earlier US ones from the slightly later Japanese models?

It's great to get a date for it's manufacture anyway, and yes, amazing to age by 25-30 years in just a few days !!
« Last Edit: April 24, 2010, 10:46:27 AM by misterkite »

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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2010, 01:00:45 AM »
There's no dispute about the pedigrees. The sixties Epis were made in Kalamazoo on the same production lines as Gibson, by the same workers. The bolt-on seventies Epis were made in Japan. It was a deliberate move by Norlin to position Epi as a value brand to compete with other Japanese guitars and basses coming onto the market.

 

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