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Interesting EB3L

jules

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« on: December 06, 2009, 11:34:56 PM »
Check this out.
 
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Looks like a typical split headstock EB3L - but with a solid headstock.
 
No serial number, but it is a refin. I'm guessing a new neck, rather than original, but still an interesting bass.

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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 01:41:22 AM »
I think I've finally got this one figured out. Body is a slothead era short scale EB-0. Later 20 fret long scale neck was added, bridge moved back, pickup added where original bridge was.

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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2009, 03:03:44 AM »
Quote from: Dave W;12619
Later 20 fret long scale neck was added

Later necks didn't have pearl logos or crowns, they had gold decal logos, and no crowns. Also note, no volute on neck, and neck binding.

Bridge pick-up is strangely close to bridge, however if it is a modified EB0, the work is nothing short of impressive. The cavity cover looks spot-on for an EB-3 cavity shape as does the pot placement, and more importantly where would they get the correct rotary switch from? It's all possible, but I'm favouring factory for the body (with strange pick up placement), undecided about the neck...
« Last Edit: December 07, 2009, 03:08:34 AM by Bails »
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Neck?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2009, 02:05:35 PM »
EB3s had bound necks, not EB0s. Another feature in favour of an EB3 rather than EB0 is the 5-ply scratchplate. Both are replaceable of course.
 
There is still a slim (I can wish) chance that this is a mid-late '69 EB3L prototype. And if so, i'd expect it to have bad neck dive.
 
Wonder what the pot codes are

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 09:24:40 PM »
An earlier neck would not have been long scale, and if this one is short scale then it won't intonate properly. It also looks wider at the butt end than my 71 EB-0L. Hard to tell from the fuzzy photo of the heel but it doesn't look stock. That neck didn't come with this body.

The bridge pickup type and location and the partial cutout of the pickup ring on the neck pickup tell me there's no way this is a Gibson prototype. It's some sort of frankenbass.

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 09:34:04 PM »
Quote from: jules;12621
EB3s had bound necks

I could be going nuts, but I don't think my '64 has neck binding, and I can't find a picture of any 70s ones with binding either.

Maybe binding is specific to year?

Quote from: Dave W;12628
That neck didn't come with this body.

No evidence of any serial number appears on the back of the headstock, which may further the argument that the neck is a replacement
« Last Edit: December 07, 2009, 09:44:05 PM by Bails »
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EB3 with neck binding
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2009, 10:27:30 PM »
Quote from: Bails;12629
Maybe binding is specific to year?

sorry, yes, i'm just talking about the slotted headstock period, 70-71
 
These EB3s have binding
https://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/1971gibsonEB3.php
https://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/1971gibsonEB3L.php

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 10:32:28 PM »
That's a strange one and I think not factory done.
 
If I look at my 1970 EB-3L the bridge pickup on that is a similar position to the Ebay bass suggesting the bridge is in the wrong place. If I look at my 1971 EB-3 the Ebay bass has the bridge in a similar position (relative to the control knobs) but the bridge pup on my bass is further forward. It's difficult to be sure from the angle of the shots and as Dave W said the fuzziness of the shots but it definately looks funny to me.
 
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 05:46:54 PM »
Well, somebody is going to have to buy this to figure it out!
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2010, 06:32:07 AM »
I know I'm late to the party here and I wish I could snag those pictures to show what I mean but eBay's new photo scheme doesn't allow for it. While the auction is still visible, take a look at that headstock. It's too wide. I know Gibson guitar headstocks got wide in the 70's, but I don't remember the basses looking like that (My EB3L and modded EB4's headstocks certainly don't look like that one). Plus the logo looks wrong as well as the 'open book' shape from the back. I don't think that neck had anything to do with that bass when it was new.

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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2010, 03:31:32 AM »
The pickup surround for the mudbucker looks homemade, almost like a goof ring. The pickup is butted right up against the neck. On the early basses that had a pickup surround, the pickup had clearance between it and the neck for the surround. This one has a cutout for the neck & a larger radius on the bass side. The input jack is located as if it were a slotted headstock era bass. My early EB-4L is on the front. Odd Bass! :roll:

 

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