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Grabber Finish Question,

Grabber Finish Question,
« on: August 08, 2009, 03:28:41 AM »
Sorry for the length of this:
I've just acquired a '82 Grabber... the images used on eBay were quite crummy indeed, and the seller stated that this was the original finish.
However, after taking possession of what I thought was a wine-red grabber, I'm not sure what I've got.  
It doesn't look like a re-finish (But I'm not saying it isn't). Underneath the pickguard is some exposed end-grain-- I can't find any trace of it's previous color (granted, if this was natural or walnut, there wouldn't be any trace of it).  
If you look very, very closely, you can see the grain of the wood, but not in the transparent, pronounced type way that you can with a real wine red finish.  The finish is sprayed on-- not applied with a paint-brush.  The lines you see is the thin grain.
The finish around the string-through body retainer is chipped abit, but all you can see is a light colored wood next to a slightly darker colored wood.  
Does anyone have any ideas for me to explore if this the real (custom) finish or what it was finished as previously?
The eBay auction is still up and it is listed as item #290335400756
Thanks for your help.
Eric.
 
Here's some images




Re: Grabber Finish Question,
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2009, 03:46:30 AM »
Also in the neck joint is the word "CAR" written in marker.
I don't see any sandpaper marks where you'd expect it... it'd be a crummier finish in the joint since it's so hard to remove old paint from there...

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Re: Grabber Finish Question,
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2009, 04:39:50 AM »
Hi Eric

that's a nice bass

CAR stands for Candy Apple Red.

Gibson used this colour from the early eighties - Victories and G3s especially, less so on Grabbers, but then by this time a lot less Grabbers were shipping.

A nice finish, and one of the rarer ones for a Grabber.

Re: Grabber Finish Question,
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2009, 02:52:17 PM »
Thanks Jules-- you're a wealth of information as always.
It's funny... before the bass arrived I was looking at the eBay photos and thought it really looked like a Candy Red.  And last night after I posted I noticed on the G3 page on this website that they shipped occasionally in candy apple red... by then I'd deduced that this must be one of those.
The link for the shipping totals on the grabber seems to be broken-- I was curious how many of these shipped.
Thanks a ton again.

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Re: Grabber Finish Question,
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2009, 01:13:23 AM »
Quote from: fidopunk
The link for the shipping totals on the grabber seems to be broken.

Gibson Grabber shipping figures are now back up... but the shipping totals only go up to 1979. Production figures for 1980 onwards are not generally available, so there are not listings for Candy Apple Red.

There were certainly a lot less eighties Grabbers than seventies.

Re: Grabber Finish Question,
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2009, 01:02:10 PM »
Interesting that this is a CAR Grabber with a maple board, as opposed to the CAR G-3s that had ebony boards which Gibson started using on the last G-3  run. But I've seen at least one early eighties Grabber (albeit in black) that had an ebony board.

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Re: Grabber Finish Question,
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2009, 01:49:36 PM »
Quote from: donnervogel
Interesting that this is a CAR Grabber with a maple board, as opposed to the CAR G-3s that had ebony boards which Gibson started using on the last G-3  run. But I've seen at least one early eighties Grabber (albeit in black) that had an ebony board.

Did you save pics of that one Uwe? Serial number?

The last run of G-3s i've seen were Nashville built 1985s (but still no '84s yet). So far (at least, since i've thought to look) the latest Grabber i've seen is 1983 (according to my notes, although I didn't keep a record of what this bass was).

Has anyone seen an '83, '84 or '85 Grabber? Has anyone seen a Nashville Grabber?

In case you don't know how to tell whether your 8-digit serial number is Kalamazoo or Nashville - the last three digits tell all; greater than 500 = Nashville, less than 500 = Kalamazoo
The CAR grabber in the original post (serial number 83142012) is late '82 and made in Kalamazoo. the Kalamazoo plant closed in 1984, so any '85s should have Nashville numbers.

Re: Grabber Finish Question,
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2009, 06:48:55 PM »
No  :oops: , it was on ebay a couple of years ago, a pristine specimen too, looking very Stealth'ish all black, it might even have had a finned neck. IIRC it must have been from 82/83. It went away for 800 bucks, pretty much the minimum bid and I'm still kicking myself for not having gobbled it up. Never saw another one. Seller didn't even know what he was holding in his hands, he just thought of it as this nice shiny newish Grabber in hardly used condition.

Re: Grabber Finish Question,
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2009, 12:14:02 PM »
Quote from: donnervogel
Interesting that this is a CAR Grabber with a maple board, as opposed to the CAR G-3s that had ebony boards which Gibson started using on the last G-3  run. But I've seen at least one early eighties Grabber (albeit in black) that had an ebony board.

One thing that I thought looked a little weird was that this was a maple neck with the black veneer headstock-- I had only seen the natural headstocks with the maple neck-- the Rippers and RD's being the exception.
I will say that the flame on the back of the neck and the fretboard is some of the most pronounced I've ever seen.  The playability and look of this neck makes it one of my all-time-favorites.

Re: Grabber Finish Question,
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2009, 06:02:06 PM »
My friend, the Goddess of Thuunder (you can google her) has an '85 G-3 with a black neck and maple fingerboard. I took it apart to get the wiring schematic.

 

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