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RD artist with antique finnish

RD artist with antique finnish
« on: January 11, 2006, 08:37:50 PM »
Hi again!
I have some questions about the RD artist that some of you could probably help me with. I've never seen any RDs in antique finnish. Is that because there were fewer made in this finnish? If so, how many where made? I'd also like to know about the electronics. It looks quite complicated and these basses are close to 30 yeras of age. Are the electronics reliable and is it possible to get replacement parts? Have any of you experienced any problems with this?
The reason I ask is because I'm beginning to get second thoughts about the EB2D project I posted on this forum a few weeks ago. I'm thinking about getting an RD instead. I know it's a very different bass from the EB2 but probably gives more value for the money as it seems to be a lot more versatile (the EB2 looks cooler though!) when it comes to sound. Musicwise I play both jazz, rock, blues and funk and need an instrument that covers the lot, so I don't have to switch basses all the time.
I think the antique finnish looks best and they never seem to show up on ebay. Why?

Wow! That was quite a long message for you all to read!
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Kreegah

RD artist with antique finnish
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2006, 10:07:57 PM »
which finish do you mean (I assume second from right):




I have seen at least 2 of these on ebay in the last 2 years, but yes, they are rarer (and generally fetch a higher price) than any other finish.

The Naturals are most common - by a mile - and this is reflected in the price they fetch.

Ebony is the next most common finish, though by no means as common as natural and this is, again, reflected in the pricing.  

Sunburst ones (also affectionately known as ketchup and mustard - due to how garrish this fin looks on RDs in pics - looks better live) can be called rare, but I've seen a good number of them on ebay.

the Antique/tobacco burst is the rarest of them all, but not drastically more so than the Sunburt.

The rarest RD ARtist is the so-called CMT - curly maple top - which I have only seen in burst finishes, they all have binding - they were only made in the last year or 3 of RD production.

Long Winded
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2006, 01:34:20 PM »
You have no idea about long-winded posts here?s one now!

I've never seen any RDs in antique finish. Is that because there were fewer made in this finish? If so, how many where made?

Burst finishes were considered a custom paint and Gibson charged $100 more for burst when new. They are the second most hard to find next to the impossible CMT. Antique burst, to me was a special burst for the RD at the timer; kind of it's signature finish back then. To me nothing is cooler than a black RD. They just look right in black. Next the classiest was the Antique burst, which gave it a more vintage T bird feel. I love antique burst. They are the hardest to find, but I doubt they are any more rare that the Ketchup & Mustard ones. The ketchup & Mustard burst looks garish in photos, but am told are stunning in person. I know that Jules in his picture looks great as well as another guy who got one.
Next was natural (which I own, for about 20+ years), which while the least expensive is a bit of a different beast, because of the maple fingerboard. This makes the maple a bit more trebly and posses better harmonics. Also I have seen a couple on the Bay with killer flame/quilt & bird's eye bodies.


 I'd also like to know about the electronics. It looks quite complicated and these basses are close to 30 years of age. Are the electronics reliable and is it possible to get replacement parts? Have any of you experienced any problems with this?

I have had mine for 20+ years and the only issue I had was a vibrating Toggle. These basses are bullet proof. I have never heard of anyone have electronic problems with an RD Artist. The electronics are confusing on paper but you learn pretty quickly. You can get any sound you want on an RD and slapping on one is not bad either because of it's more Precision like neck. Jules gets a great "Warm? bass tone from his.
Forget about ever getting replacement parts for an RD. Ebay is is your only hope. The only person that had electronic problems was Beck's bass player Justin Medal Johnson. His bass tech guy wired an extra 9V (18V total) into the bass and fried the board.

 I know it's a very different bass from the EB2 but probably gives more value for the money as it seems to be a lot more versatile (the EB2 looks cooler though!) when it comes to sound. Music wise I play jazz, rock, blues and funk and need an instrument that covers the lot, so I don't have to switch basses all the time.

The Rd will fit into in ANY music. Very versitle bass

I think the antique finish looks best and they never seem to show up on eBay. Why?

They were produced in smaller numbers, but I have seen several in the past year, but burst usually go for $1200+ US. Also they do look stunning and imagine that most do not want to part with one. These are one the best basses period.

The biggest drawback of going from and EB-2 & RD is the RD is solid maple, which makes them one of the heaviest basses ever made. They have to be 12 pounds +

I would not get one if you have any back problems. I used mine for 2-hour gigs and with a wide strap it was not bad, but that was 15 years ago.

Wow! That was quite a long message for you all to read!
Thanks


RD artist with antique finnish
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2006, 10:54:58 PM »
Wow! Thanks to all of you for all the info. This forum is great for bass geeks like me!
Guess I'll have to be patient then, if I should get an antique burst RD. Maybe I'll go for the ketchup and mustard finnish if one shows up. Does the different kind of wood on the fretboard on the natural finnish RD really affect the sound that much?

Kreegah

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Re: Long Winded
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2006, 02:10:01 AM »
Quote from: Redbird
I'd also like to know about the electronics. It looks quite complicated and these basses are close to 30 years of age. Are the electronics reliable and is it possible to get replacement parts? Have any of you experienced any problems with this?


When I got my RD it had an electronic problem. I have to say I can't remember what...... but I decided it was caused by pressure on one of the pots -  I bought a spare circuit board on ebay. It was also faulty. I'm SERIOUSLY hopeless at electronics, but I still managed to find the bad component on mine (it was obvious - it looked broken) and replaced it with the part from the other board.

The electronics look tricky, but they are mostly resistors and capacitors etc - parts you can still get today, and generally don't break unless there is a physical breakage..  There may be a few components that are not so easy to replace, but certainly not many

The shipping figures for the RD basses are not split by colour, so I'm not sure anyone knows how many tobacco sunbursts are out there - but I have to agree that the black ones do look the business..... in fact I like the TS ones least. I always thought it'd look good in white too....

Maple Finger boards
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2006, 01:04:56 PM »
I have owned three types, rosewood, ebony & maple. I know the bass it'self is part of it, but hands down, my two maple fingerboard (Fenderbird & RD) has the best harmonics/brightness of the lot. The ebony sits in the middle(Carvin) and Rosewood is the warmest sounding (T Bird), but has the worst harmonics.

This is just my experience.

Here is what Warmoth says abot neck woods -
http://www.warmoth.com/bass/necks/necks ... _neckwoods

Black
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2006, 01:06:27 PM »
There is nothing cooler than a Black on black RD, Ripper or G-3.


Stunning combo's

Re: Long Winded
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2006, 06:22:16 PM »
Quote from: jules
...but I have to agree that the black ones do look the business..... in fact I like the TS ones least. I always thought it'd look good in white too....


They DO look great in white (as do TBirds) - there was a white refin RD on the bay about a year ago.

 

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