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Thunderbird Project... tips and advice please!

Thunderbird Project... tips and advice please!
« on: February 18, 2008, 11:49:10 PM »
I've just begun working on a Thunderbird... Fenderbird project.  Using a mahogony Epiphone  body, and a Warmoth P-bass neck made from maple with ebony board.  I can't wait to post pics!  
Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone has wired up any cool upgrade pickups to their 'Birds.  Botique hand made or otherwise. Passive all the way. I dont want to route, but I can if I need to.  I was thinking about 1 Mudbucker, but I think I want to keep the 2 pickup configuration (and believe me the novelty of 2 Mudbuckers is tempting!).  I want to wire it like a Blackbird and use my pre / amp / effects to control tone and volume.
What is the difference between the standard epi pickups and the Deepsixx pu's ?
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so if you have any suggestions, post up!  Does anyone else have their own project T-bird?
And how about posting some pics of various Fenderbirds for some inspiration?

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Thunderbird Project... tips and advice please!
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2008, 12:56:54 AM »

 My project fbird

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2008, 11:42:20 AM »
What is the difference between the standard epi pickups and the Deepsixx pu's ?


While the Epiphone TBird pups have gained in authority over the years, they are still quite a bit removed from Gibson TB Plus quality. The Deepsixx aren't there either, but compared to the regular Epi pups they have added midrange bark making them more assertive in a slightly grinding way. Not for everyone. Rather than Deepsixx they should have called them Midsixx. The fact that an Epi Blackbird offers a little more bass ooomph than a regular Epi is more down to the fact that the pups on the Blackbird are positioned more towards the neck rather than the bridge.

Uwe

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2008, 03:51:27 PM »
Also, according to the Epi catalogue, Deepsixx pickups have slightly more output than the TB in the regular epi T-bird

project update
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2008, 10:09:21 PM »
Well I have been busy prepping the Epi bird body for refinish and I have found that while the catalog specs the sunburst model as "mahogony", it is really just a thin veneer of mahogony over alder!  Bummer!  If I would have known that before I would have got the "goth" version... you wouldn't believe how long it takes to strip the 3mm polyurethane clearcoat off the wood!  I have logged in at least 3-4 hours stripping, scraping and sanding.  One bit of heavy hand with the D.A. and the mahogony just disappeared in a couple of spots.  It's OK though I will be painting not staining... more to come soon!

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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2008, 10:29:18 PM »
Well, dont feel too bad about the veneer, according to the 2007 Epi catalogue, the GOth Bird is Basswood. Musicians friend and the epi website list it as Mohogany. So I dont know which it is. I havent disected it to find out.

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2008, 05:19:28 AM »
Quote from: anyfour
the 2007 Epi catalogue, the GOth Bird is Basswood. the epi website list it as Mohogany.



Thats quite a discrepancy. I don't suppose it changed from one to the other at some point?

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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2008, 02:03:37 PM »
I really dont know if it changed or not. The 2007 Cat obviously was done in 2006, so maybe after it was printed, they decided to go with a more vintage sounding wood. But even if it is basswood, mine has a nice little growl to it and sounds pretty mean for an epi. I`ll have to see if I can get through the paint in the body cavity and see what I can tell from that.

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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2008, 09:16:36 PM »
Yeah, for an epiphone it does have a good tone, I played the bass a bit to compare it to a Gibson, and while there are differences, it is great tone for dollar ratio!  
 I am going to sell the Epiphone T-bird neck on ebay this week, if anyone is interested in it, send me a p.m....
Package will include neck, tuners, neck plate, truss rod cover.

Proceeds will go to the Warmoth P-bass style neck... which I am considering going reverse headstock (lefty with a "righty" nut).  Do you think I will encounter trouble with string lengths on an arrangement like that? Seems like low E will have to travel further...

Thunderbird Project... tips and advice please!
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2008, 09:25:39 PM »
It will be close, but I would think you should be ok with the length, as long as you arent running strings through the body. Those 3 points dont take up much string at all when you run the ball end under the claw.

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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2008, 06:06:31 PM »
Quote from: anyfour
Also, according to the Epi catalogue, Deepsixx pickups have slightly more output than the TB in the regular epi T-bird


I have decided to just run the stock Epi pickups... check out my custom chromed pickup covers!  Actually they are vacuum metalized, a chroming process for plastics....more to come as I begin refinishing next week.


Thunderbird Project... tips and advice please!
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2008, 08:50:21 PM »
Nice chrome job on those. I built bass with the epi goth body . Never try to strip the black crap off the goth. It aint any paint I ever saw. It was mahog for sure . I just covered it with a can of Binz and  painted over that. binz is a great base.
Cant wait to see more pics. Too bad you did not have a set of Black gibby  T - bird pups to chrome ... You may be onto something there just beware of the anti-chrome

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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2008, 07:22:04 PM »
those pups look real nice!

I'm building a Fenderbird project at the moment (it's taking some time though eh Jules!)

Basically I've got a modern Gibson Thunderbird body that I extracted from a totally trashed neck and have now fitted an Allparts Jazz neck to it. Hardware consists of a Schaller bridge (like those on the Victory basses) and Schaller machineheads. Electrics are two Guild humbuckers the same as on the 70's JS basses and a Guild wiring loom which has a phase switch and master volume. Hopefully have it up and running soon but just waiting for the custom pup rings and bridge cover to be finished and chromed. I'll get Jules to post some pics as soon as I can.

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2008, 02:48:08 AM »
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Never try to strip the black crap off the goth. It aint any paint I ever saw. It was mahog for sure .


After getting through to the wood on thie Epi, I think I will actually use the stock neck instead of the Warmoth .  I might try and cut my own mahogany blank.  The overall quality of that Epi doesn't inspire me enough to want to go all out with upgrades. It will never be as nice of a bass as my 90 RI Thunderbird, but it will make a nice "throw in the truck" winter time / travel instrument.

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2008, 08:49:26 PM »
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I'm building a Fenderbird project at the moment


yes, it is taking time - but time well spent. Looking forward to seeing this one...

 

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