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« on: January 02, 2008, 11:38:52 PM »
Hey!  It's me the new guy... well, 'been an innocent bystander for some time.  Just wanted to pipe in with a local find, a '76 G-3 Grabber with EB pickup configuration... What do you make of that?



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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2008, 12:35:11 AM »
i've seen a pic of that before,very weird,cool and crazy!........EB-G3 !
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2008, 01:04:58 AM »
Hi lxmetal and welcome,

yes this has been up before. We've discussed it in two separate threads (this is the third)

Here and then again here

My own feeling is that this is frankenstein bass made of mostly Gibson parts, potentially by a Gibson employee. I like being proved wrong however....

Did you get any paperwork with it? Like an original order for it? A previous owner suggested he had some, but never posted it here.
Go on, tell me you have the original order he mentioned.... If not perhaps you could email Gibson the serial number and pic (like he did) and see if they will send you a copy.

Jules

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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2008, 04:10:03 AM »
Well the guy who bought it on ebay is looking to off it and I am testing it out... It has a great EB sound and I love the long scale as I have been playing a Thunderbird for a long time.  However there is a warp that starts at the headstock that is a major detraction as far as I am concerned...
I was really excited to check it out, but when I saw that twist I was not about to pay top $$$ for it.  No provenance was with it, so like you say it could be a parts bass.  I don't know what to offer.  I was searching for a Grabber (G-1) and I know I could probably find one for $4-500 if I kept searching.  The ebay thread was expired.  I wonder how much it went for last year?
Thanks for any advice!

Grabber oddball
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2008, 08:08:40 AM »
Please post a pic of the body. The old eBay auctions aren't online anymore. Sounds interesting!

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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2008, 11:02:21 AM »



.I am into the oddball style...But that warp has me wanting to run the other way.  Did they ever use volutes on bolt on necks?

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2008, 11:22:50 AM »
Does the warp affect playability? I'm asking because except for the earliest skunk stripe Grabbers, all later Grabbers had scarfed/grafted on headstocks which may twist without actually affecting the fretboard.

Except for the Kalamzoo (the cheapo brand, not the plant) basses, Gibson only used volutes on set neck basses, not on bolt ons or - strangely enough as they could have used it - on the neck thru TBirds. Even more strange, the volutes are more prevalent with the less break prone maple necks, than with the frail mahogany necks. In any case, a volute won't keep a neck from twisting.

That is one ugly mofo btw, but it has charm. Should you want to walk away from it, I might be interested. Drop me an email at uwe.hornung@cliffordchance.com then.

Uwe

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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2008, 12:18:42 PM »
Quote from: donnervogel
they could have used it - on the neck thru TBirds.

Good point - do you think neck diving was the issue? Seems odd that none of the mahogany necks have it. Maybe its a woodworking issue...

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That is one ugly mofo btw, but it has charm. Should you want to walk away from it...


So altruistic, as always. Perhaps we should start calling ze Kollection ze Orfanage. Perhaps you could start selling your own Christmas cards to fund it  :roll:

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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2008, 03:13:35 PM »
I have a heart for ugly things but the two part pickguard here and the naked flat body of the G-3/Ripper/Grabber shape is pushing it. But rare is rare, so if this bass needs a home who am I to shut my doors to it in the bitter cold winter I cry?!!! Yes, Ze Reichs-Gibsön-Örfffänäge is an apt description for my humble attempt to bring some warmth and happiness into the life of these wretched little things, thank you, Jules, for your kind thoughts.

The only "voluted" maho neck Gibson I can think of is Rob's Triumph if I recall correctly (mine doesn't have it, but Rob's is later). But then maybe few maho necks with a volute exist since the volute is a seventies thing when the forces of evil maple had invaded Gibson. I remember seventies Les Paul guitars with volutes, but then these might be maple necks too.

On a scarfed neck like the Grabber's/G-3's, a volute would be counter-productive. It would not stabilize the graft line which starts somewhere behind the first fret, but  add leverage for it to break.

I doubt whether volutes automatically don't work with maho or other non-maple woods - Warwick still uses them on all their models irrespective of what wood they are using for the particular neck.

Uwe

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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2008, 03:45:52 PM »
yer right. my friend has a '72 Les Paul "gold top" geeeeetar with a maple neck,volute and mini humbuckers.strange beast.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2008, 01:05:51 AM »
Quote from: donnervogel
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I doubt whether volutes automatically don't work with maho or other non-maple woods - Warwick still uses them on all their models irrespective of what wood they are using for the particular neck.

Uwe


I bought one of those Flying V2 neck blanks form the eBay store that is currently selling lots of NOS parts.  It was cool to see a volute in a chunky, unfinished form... each one had to be hand finished and subtleties had to come from that.  As questionable as they are, I just like volutes...


I have been playing the bass for a couple of days now and observing that the scarffed neck must be the reason for such a twist.  The action is set relatively high and once I lower it  I will see if playing is affected.  I don't think that is going to be a problem.  The pickguard is an incredible cellulose tortise specimin. It is radiused all around except for the area where the 2 pieces meet (albeit a 2mm gap).  The mudbucker is "robust" and the faintness of the g string is coming from the mini humbucker only.  I am going to play it at our gig tomorrow night.  Will post live photos soon.  Till then here's me with my T-bird and mandolin counterpart with his Mandobird

Grabber oddball
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2008, 04:33:53 PM »
I like the rectangular plate with the pick ups. The one with the controls is a bit oversized, though. I would like too see it without that plate, but I guess it has some routings underneath it?

Only the rectangular plate and the controls on the wood would give it a nice, almost MM look.

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2008, 09:15:32 PM »
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I am going to play it at our gig tomorrow night.  Will post live photos soon.


How was the gig? Did the bass do its thing? What kind of band is it? some kind of country thing? Got a myspace page we can check out?

Bixy Lutz Tonight!
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2008, 10:38:23 PM »
The photos are of my band Puttygutt,  we are electric folk rock.
 www.myspace.com/puttygutt  ... although we are presently on hiatus,
I am in another band: Bixy Lutz.  We'll be live tonite, so pics tomorrow, and myspace for those who can't make it is www.myspace.com/bixylutzmusic
I'll play the Grabber tonight, here's my Wm Eberle upright bass...

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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2008, 02:03:35 AM »
volutes rule!
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