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barend

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« on: December 21, 2007, 10:31:00 PM »
what is it with Gibson basses that is so addictive?

two questions on EB3 basses:

what the average prices you pay for a Gibson EB3?

and is the Epiphone EB3 RI (or SG) any good? does the sound come close to the real EB3?

I never played on a Gibson EB3 but I have serious GAS for it right now.

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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2007, 11:27:05 PM »
I can't say for sure but owning a '69 EB-3 compared to an Epi EB-0 I must say that soundwise you will not get that close with the longscale Epi EB-3. I have one of the first batch of Korean EB-0's and the workmanship is great but the sound is nowhere near the real thing. It is quite mellow but not that sub-woofing and not that high output. If you are really looking for deep oomph the Epi EB-3 is nothing for you. If you like the looks and want a more traditional sounding bass (though it will not sound like a P) then alright.

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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2007, 12:52:04 AM »
Are you asking the average price these days for an EB3, and are you meaning not the current "SG" bass, but an actual EB3?  The new SG seems to run about $1000, give or take a few bucks.

Year of manufacture has a huge impact on asking price.  The 61-65 with the wide pot spacing seem to get the most $, with the plastic covered pup being a hot feature.  The two point tunematic bridge types are next, slot heads a bit less $, and 70s maybe a teeny bit less than those.  The long scale also is desireable.  All versions have their appeal, but they all feel a bit different from each other, with 70s basses very different from the basses of the early 60s.

Me personally, I am averaging about $250 for EB3s.  But I haven't bought one for a while.
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barend

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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2007, 01:26:28 AM »
I don't mean the Gibson SG RI. I mean the real Gibson EBS3 from the 60's or 70''s. I don't need to know the exact prices but just to have an indication of what I can expect.

So I guess the Epi EB3 is not a good option?

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2007, 02:16:34 AM »
Prices vary greatly, but I would say a typical ebay price will vary from $600 to a fairly beat up 70s model to around $3000+ for a pristine early 60s one.

However a typical price for a player will be around $800-$1500 depending on case/repairs/missing parts etc

Time of the year, time of the month, quality of images etc all affect price too. They come up often enough, and if you can bear to be patient you can certainly save money

Watch for upgraded EB0s.... if an EB3 is not fetching the price you think, it may be because its a mod, and potential buyers have noticed

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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2007, 02:48:44 AM »
IMHO the long scale models (EB-0L and EB-3L) go for less. They weren't around until the slothead era anyway. I haven't seen a vintage price guide lately but they always used to go for less than short scale models from the same years..

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2007, 09:27:03 AM »
I have a severe hankering for an EB3, so the SG RI doesn't sound anything like it? The Epi is not worth the $$?

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2007, 10:14:22 AM »
and what about the Epi Elitist?

This one seems a little fake. But I am not sure though I might be wrong. It has a different bridge and the name tag looks strange on the detailed picture. But maybe in 69 they had different bridges (?).
1969-GIBSON-EB-3-BASS-CHERRY-EB3-VINTAGE-ORIGINAL-EB

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2007, 12:37:09 PM »
Ebay prices I have observed-

60's EB-S's   good condition - 68  $2000- $2500

Slot heads -69- 71?  $1200- $1500

70's- maple neck fat bodied - mudbucker mounted away from the neck (not well liked as much as the others)  $1200- $1500

Dealers prices or more minty add $500- to several thousand on the price.

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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2007, 02:23:03 PM »
Quote from: barend
This one seems a little fake.


looks real to me - a fairly typical '69. Knobs are replacement, but the rest looks fine.

I've bought several EB3s..... the last, about a year ago was also a '69. It had an un-repaired broken headstock, and awful (though original) finish. I got it for $350 on ebay. I posted a link to it here somewhere, pointing out what a bargain I thought it was, but when nobody bid I snapped it up  myself - worth it for the parts alone. It just goes to show, you can get the EB3 vibe without spending a fortune IF you are prepared to compromise a little on condition.

I actually bought it for parts, but its currently being rebuilt... it may go pelham blue, it may stay original.

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2007, 03:04:06 PM »
It just seemed to me that the Gibson logo on the headstock was like a sticker. On my Gibson it doesn't look like it has been glued up. But maybe they did it like that in those days.

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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2007, 04:07:33 PM »


The reason it looks like a sticker on the edge is the way it is made.

In this period, the inlay was actually a block of pearl bigger than the letters. The edge can be seen as the line surrounding the logo above. The actual letters are then painted around, in black, to give the word Gibson, The crown is ade the same way, with the lines on each side being painted in.

It is quite an effective way of giving an inlaid logo, without too much mother of pearl work. The fact that the letters are painted around explains why these logos often look a little different from each other.

I have no information on how this was done, but assume it was masked before painting the whole headstock, because despite minor differences, they are all more generally the same

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2007, 04:21:08 PM »
That looks pretty beat up, but if you are more interested in playing than museum curation---looks like it could be a good deal---as long as it doesn't run up too high.
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2007, 10:19:10 PM »
Where that one is at now is a real nice deal.  

The inlays were encased in some black epoxy kind of stuff, and that was inlaid into the wood.  The color coat ran up to the edges, with the logo masked off.  So with clear coats, buffing, etc, it looked nice and smooth.  Then as the finish checked, you could see how it crazed up around it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2007, 07:14:21 AM »
I had taken some shots of the logos on a couple of my basses for a thread over on DP.  Here's a shot of my '69 EB-3 - so you can see the similarities to that one you are looking at:



I agree that it looks like the real deal (except for the knobs and whatever is going on at the jack).  The bridge is correct for that bass.

Good luck if you end up going for it.  Mine has become one of my most frequently used basses.  Love it!
Regards,
Joe

 

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