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who used an rd?
« on: November 05, 2007, 12:13:05 AM »
who famous used an rd on recordings or stage ?

who used an rd?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 02:10:32 AM »
krist from nirvana
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 03:29:13 AM »
Me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLFd3Fbfr_8

But really, forgot about the guy in Nirvana, but I can't think of any others.  Maybe the chick bass player in the Donnas?
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2007, 08:46:52 AM »
Yes she has played one too. And the bass player from Ten Years Later - Alvin Lee's late seventies power trio after he was once again awol from Ten Years After. German jazz rock bass legend Wolfgang Schmid, formerly of Passport, played one too and later on advanced to a Victory Artist.

Uwe

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2007, 12:40:54 PM »
Ralphe Armstrong of Mahivishnu Orchestra & Jean Luc Ponty fame
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Justin Meldal-Johnsen- Bass player who has played with a lot of people from Beck to Tori Amos- I interviewed him recently and he talks about his RD's in the up coming Gibsonbss.com interview.

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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2007, 12:44:18 PM »
Quote from: Sturmvogel
Me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLFd3Fbfr_8

But really, forgot about the guy in Nirvana, but I can't think of any others.  Maybe the chick bass player in the Donnas?


Great sound your getting out of your RD, very Entwistle & piano like.

How long have you had yours and do you ever use the moog circuit?

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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 02:42:17 AM »
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Quote from: Sturmvogel
Me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLFd3Fbfr_8

But really, forgot about the guy in Nirvana, but I can't think of any others.  Maybe the chick bass player in the Donnas?

Great sound your getting out of your RD, very Entwistle & piano like.

How long have you had yours and do you ever use the moog circuit?


Thanks---the sound is exactly what I have been after for quite some time--- I have always loved the round wound piano string (low end strings) sound.  When it is time to change these strings (which is very, very soon), I am going to put on Rotosound Piano String Design strings.  I've used them on my Ric with fantastic results.

I've had this since the beginning of this past March.  Didn't even know they existed before then.  Found it on Gbase.com for a reasonable price that I figured I could sell it for my money if I didn't like it.  Needless to say, I was blown away by the sounds.

And yes, I have used the Moog board on, I think it is the expansion setting (the one in which the attack is muted and the decay is sustained for a very long time) on a piece in which I play a theme and then repeat it on the expansion switch and striking lightly, which is far more expressive than simply lightly plucking.  Then switch back to straight active for the final portion of the theme.  I haven't tried the compression switch, at least for playing, because it is too bright.  But it may not be if I ever find some people to jam with.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 10:42:11 AM »
It's the other way around: Compression cuts attack and blows up sustain, expansion boosts treble and presence. Compression only affects the neck pup, expansion only the bridge pup.

If you have an older model with two regular size toggles, the higher toggle switched to the left (ie to the headstock) activates a general treble and higher mid boost (that is not expansion) that affects both pups. On newer models the upper two way mini toggle does that.

Switching on older models the higher toggle switch to the right (ie the butt of the bass) activates BOTH the compression of the neck pup and the expansion mode of the bridge pup. If you then want compression only, you will have to use the lower toggle switch to run just the neck pup. If you want just expansion, you need to run the neck pup in solo mode. Both pups running, you'll always have expansion AND compression. On newer models, the two way mini toggle in the middle does that.

It follows that newer models have one soundoption older models don't. With older models you must decide whether you want the general treble and mid boost (upper toggle to the headstock) OR compression/expansion (upper toggle to the butt), you can't have both running at the same time. With newer models you can activate the compression/expansion mode with the mini toggle in the middle and then add the treble and mid boost with the upper mini toggle for an ultra metallic sound that makes Chris Squire sound like he's playing a mudbucker.  :lol:

This is all very simple really  :shock:  and only takes a few years and some dedication to fully grasp! Hang on in there!

Uwe

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2007, 11:42:44 AM »
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It's the other way around: Compression cuts attack and blows up sustain, expansion boosts treble and presence. Compression only affects the neck pup, expansion only the bridge pup.

If you have an older model with two regular size toggles, the higher toggle switched to the left (ie to the headstock) activates a general treble and higher mid boost (that is not expansion) that affects both pups. On newer models the upper two way mini toggle does that.

Switching on older models the higher toggle switch to the right (ie the butt of the bass) activates BOTH the compression of the neck pup and the expansion mode of the bridge pup. If you then want compression only, you will have to use the lower toggle switch to run just the neck pup. If you want just expansion, you need to run the neck pup in solo mode. Both pups running, you'll always have expansion AND compression. On newer models, the two way mini toggle in the middle does that.

It follows that newer models have one soundoption older models don't. With older models you must decide whether you want the general treble and mid boost (upper toggle to the headstock) OR compression/expansion (upper toggle to the butt), you can't have both running at the same time. With newer models you can activate the compression/expansion mode with the mini toggle in the middle and then add the treble and mid boost with the upper mini toggle for an ultra metallic sound that makes Chris Squire sound like he's playing a mudbucker.  

This is all very simple really   and only takes a few years and some dedication to fully grasp! Hang on in there!




It's sounds like your reading the owners manual from a BMW with I drive!

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2007, 02:44:50 PM »
All German manuals end with:

"And iff you don't underständ zis even nöw you vill be unceremoniously shöt, you Dummkopf, mach schnell!"

But the various RD applications with their - to put it positively - interweaving matrix structure of functions seem rather American in concept to me. It's like the three point bridge: Whatever screw you turn is bound to affect the others, but you can never quite fathom why, when and how!

You guys are just an intellectual melting pot.  :lol:

Uwe

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2007, 03:50:04 PM »
Honestly, the only guy I remember seeing with an RD when you could buy them new was Bram Tchaikovsky, but he gave up bass and played the guitar.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2007, 10:17:19 PM »
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I've had this since the beginning of this past March. Didn't even know they existed before then. Found it on Gbase.com for a reasonable price that I figured I could sell it for my money if I didn't like it. Needless to say, I was blown away by the sounds.



It's a great bass and I have not heard many who have owned one that did not like it's sound or playability. I think it is certainly Gibson's most versatile bass, certainly the one of the best & least appreciated basses ever made.

The heavy weight has always been it's curse.

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2007, 07:29:43 PM »
Quote from: donnervogel
It's the other way around: Compression cuts attack and blows up sustain, expansion boosts treble and presence. Compression only affects the neck pup, expansion only the bridge pup.

If you have an older model with two regular size toggles, the higher toggle switched to the left (ie to the headstock) activates a general treble and higher mid boost (that is not expansion) that affects both pups. On newer models the upper two way mini toggle does that.

Switching on older models the higher toggle switch to the right (ie the butt of the bass) activates BOTH the compression of the neck pup and the expansion mode of the bridge pup. If you then want compression only, you will have to use the lower toggle switch to run just the neck pup. If you want just expansion, you need to run the neck pup in solo mode. Both pups running, you'll always have expansion AND compression. On newer models, the two way mini toggle in the middle does that.

It follows that newer models have one soundoption older models don't. With older models you must decide whether you want the general treble and mid boost (upper toggle to the headstock) OR compression/expansion (upper toggle to the butt), you can't have both running at the same time. With newer models you can activate the compression/expansion mode with the mini toggle in the middle and then add the treble and mid boost with the upper mini toggle for an ultra metallic sound that makes Chris Squire sound like he's playing a mudbucker.  :lol:

This is all very simple really  :shock:  and only takes a few years and some dedication to fully grasp! Hang on in there!

Uwe


Sorry, I couldn't remember expansio/compression to describe what the effect of the switches are.  But I do know how it works and can use it to advantage.  I never quite cared for the expansion setting, it is too trebly---but then maybe I could find a use in an ensemble environment, just have no one else to jam with.

I don't really find the settings all that complicated or difficult to remember, in spite of the addition of the tone knobs to add color to it all.  It is simply the most expressive bass made (aside from perhaps an Alembic---never tried one of those).

Redbird---I don't really notice the weight, I've played standing for over an hour without any more fatigue than other basses.  What i find difficult is the length width and, especially depth of the neck.  It is a challenge for small hands such as mine.  I think its "downfall" was that it was too much of an expressive instrument for most players who basically do root notes and pop and slap.  The RD has more tonal finesse than what most bass players can imagine what to do with.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2007, 07:37:36 PM »
It also has great sustain and Harmoinics that are amazing that can't be found on any other bass I have played.

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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2007, 08:29:32 PM »
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It also has great sustain and Harmoinics that are amazing that can't be found on any other bass I have played.


Oh yeah---sustain out the wazoo---even when it is not in the compression or expansion mode or whatever one has the extra sustain capability.  It sounds so piano-like with roundwounds---the thing sings.  When you play chords with it, it sounds practically orchestral.  

I am amazed that this bass didn't really catch on when it was introduced, although it seems they are beginning to now, judging from how much they sell for.
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