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« on: March 20, 2007, 02:23:19 AM »
heres a project you don't see every day!!!!!! and it shouldn't go for $12K

RARE VINTAGE 1950's GIBSON EB-1 BASS +CASE PROJECT!

anyone got the parts of an old EB bass knocking about. I have to say i'm tempted, but in reality it could be decades before a pickup come up

I suppose it could be made into a late sixties style one.....

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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 12:55:03 PM »
A great project for a left hand version?


I bet it still goes for big $$$

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2007, 07:51:25 AM »
anyone got the parts of an old EB bass knocking about

Yep.

I have too many projects sadly.  I still have my EB3 project, and a bunch of Fenders to clean up.  I would love to dive into that one though.  It would be relatively easy to patch the cobjob on the pup.  Beyond the wood working, the original finish lends itself nicely to the concept of opaqueing the patch and tone-spraying it to cover it up.  I could blend that one up pretty nice, I bet.  I imagine the wood on that one is nice and dense.  Every one I have ever played - or owned - has that old hard mahogany that 90% of the SG bodies - and 69 EB1s - never had.

I think one of the things that may be nice is that it is so hard to get 50s parts that the price of this should be not too out of hand. I hope. One can't snap up the correct parts every day.  Although on ebay everything comes around eventually I believe.  The 12gs for the clean one was unnexpected, but I don't believe that we will see a big rush of EBs going for that much.  That whole thing got a bit odd, to the point I am not into reading about it at the pit anymore.  Something not right there.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2007, 03:54:22 PM »
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The 12gs for the clean one was unnexpected, but I don't believe that we will see a big rush of EBs going for that much.  That whole thing got a bit odd, to the point I am not into reading about it at the pit anymore.  Something not right there.

You got that right. Not sure what it is, though.

Now this one could make an outstanding bass in the hands of the right restorer.

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2007, 06:13:51 PM »
Lets all chip in, I will restore it and then we can all borrow it for a month at a time.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2007, 06:20:13 PM »
The hardest part is finding that brown plastic pickup. They just do not come up often to say the least.

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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2007, 08:15:46 PM »
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I imagine the wood on that one is nice and dense.  Every one I have ever played - or owned - has that old hard mahogany that 90% of the SG bodies - and 69 EB1s - never had.



I've read somewhere that Gibson used Cuban Mahogany until a certain revolution put an end to that import. Maybe that's the explanation to that observation?

The original pickup will be a tough one to collect indeed.

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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2007, 09:13:12 PM »
Cuba could be what it was.  But I can't imagine Honduras mahogany would be much different.  What I would guess is that they probably bought nice old boards, maybe from Cuba, and they seasoned up in the factory for a long time.  Because they did not crank them out crazy until the 60s they could use nice wood, and as the demand went up the wood was not as dried or dense or old.  My take.

The old EB parts don't show up too often, but I planned ahead.  
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2007, 09:32:59 PM »
Is that a plastic cover pup?

I remember reading that Fine mahogany (Cuban) is a naturaly a darker red color than other mahoganies and that is why Gibson started using the cherry stain they are famous for. The supply dried up and they wanted the same look.


Then they tried using Korina which was an even less expensive mahogany substitute.

As with most Gibson lore these could be true or a load of crap. The mahogany on that bass looks like regular honduran. I have never seen Cuban mahogany.

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2007, 09:59:11 PM »
Those are from a 55 or 56 EB.

The mahog from then is very red tinged.  I have a headstock that snapped off a 50s EB2 that is like clay from Georgia inside.  I think the cherry red is just something they did to be red, which I love by the way.  The 50s EB is almost cocoa colored.  That is why I think the repair on the project one will be easy to obscure while getting the finish together on it.  It is easy to get tone finish sprays to cover that up and keep the rest of the wood shining through.  Up close you can always tell, but maybe a few feet away it will be cool.

When I was younger and blasting my ears out on tour I pulled into some roadside pee and eat place - like Stuckeys - and it had rained.  I stepped into a puddle and the red clay splashed up on my pants and stayed there forever. NASTY stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2007, 10:02:24 PM »
By the way, there are two versions of the first plastic cover.  The first is brown, and at the very end there are black ones with the poles down the bottom.  I have seen black on one EB and several EB2s.  And I have seen brown on a couple of EB2s.  They are fairly brittle on the edges where the screw go as well.  I had one that had half the thin edge break off.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2007, 03:46:28 AM »
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but I planned ahead.  


man - if you've got the pickup that guitar must be destined for you. I suggest you reappraise your priorities  :D

Do you have the cover too?

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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2007, 04:57:30 AM »
I did have the one that came with it, but used it on another project.  I have been saving the parts for making an Explorer bass again.  One of these days.  But in all honesty, I am just not financially ready to drop over $500 on a project - admittedly one I would love to tackle - that would take a long time to do.  I think it would be wonderful if another came up in a year or so.  But then again, in a year or so I might be able to pick up a clean one.  Till then I feel fine not doing it, and dealing with the projects I have, the family, the bills, etc.  Life is funny that way.

And I still have to post on here how to mod a Kahler bridge for an EB2.  I will get that done this week.  I promise.
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Wow!
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2007, 03:39:42 PM »
Wow, $1350 final bid.

 

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