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1969 Epiphone Rivoli - Pickup and Circuit modification

1969 Epiphone Rivoli - Pickup and Circuit modification
« on: November 01, 2011, 04:58:31 PM »
Hi folks!

I just happened to buy myself an Epiphone Rivoli which seems to be a 1969 according to its serial number and the two-point adjustable Bridge.
The seller found it at his attic, and he didn't really know what to do with it.

Unfortunately a bridge Pickup was added at some stage of its live.
Looking at the picture I suspect it's a Dimarzio Model one.
I havent got the Bass yet, so I don't even know if the pickups are working.
But the substance seems good, no headstock repair or breaks, and even the pickguard and the bridge-cover are still there.

Now I ask myself what to do with it.
What i planned was to keep the Mudbucker and the Model One in it (provided that they are working).
The pots will have to be changed anyway I assume, so I could modify the circuit as well once I have them out.
What I plan to do is change the Baritone-Switch against a 3-way-toggle (Mud - Fullrange without coil - Baritone) and because there is already another one in it, I'd use that as Pickup-Switch. So I could use the Mudbucker in all three modes, and combine it with the Dimarzio via the second 3-way-toggle as in an EB-2D

What would you do?
I think i read somewhere that the Model One can be used in different modes (Singlecoil, Humbucker...).
I want to get the typical Rivoli sound out of it with the mudbucker, no problem with that I think.
But as the Dimarzio is already in the Bass, I think it wouldn't hurt to give the Rivoli the option to a second, more versatile sound :)

And finally a last question: The E-sticker on the pickguard seems to be missing. Does anybody of you have an idea how I could get one of these in Europe?

Here's a pic of the Bass we're talking about:


Thanks :)

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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2011, 10:31:08 PM »
Nice bass. So will you drill more holes or try and do it with what is there?
 
I wonder how a Dimarzio in the bridge position contrasts with a Gibson mini-humbucker, or other similar pickup.
 
I have a Rivoli with a Dimarzio at the neck, and it's ok, but I do miss the real low end without the mudbucker. I've also played an EB2 that had two mudbuckers, but there was not so much tonal difference between the two.
 
The were some NOS Epiphone E logos on ebay recently. IIRC from more than one seller too.

1969 Epiphone Rivoli - Pickup and Circuit modification
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 04:06:34 AM »
I think I'll use the one that are already made.
If I arrange the pots in the original way and put the switches in the "second row" it may even look not so bad at all :-D

I also thought of adding a second volume poti just where the input-jack is, and the jack could be moved to the sides, as on a Gibson ES-345 Stereo.
But I think I couldn't stand it to drill even more holes in this 60s-beauty, so I'll try to make the best with the holes I've got.

1969 Epiphone Rivoli - Pickup and Circuit modification
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 12:47:02 PM »
Finally the Rivoli arrived today!
At first I have to admit what a lucky bastard I am! :-D
I havent seen the Bass before I bought it, I just got some bad pics and the seller didn't even know if the electronics are working.
Well, I took it out of the box, plugged it into my amp and WHHOOOM - the healthiest mudbucker tones I've ever heard!
Obviously the previous owner has already modified the circuit a little bit - the Baritone Switch works, but instead of the full-mud sound unchoked it has the fullrange sound which the Mudbucker gives without any filtering. If the button is pushed the bass is cut of, like it should. I think I'll leave it that way, if I want the brutal bassy sound I just need to play with the tone pot.

The second pickup is indeed a dimarzio, but it has some problems, but I'm quite certain that thats because of its volume-poti.
Although it works the pots alltogether aren't the best anymore, so I'll get 3 new pots and thats it. 2x vol, 1x tone and baritone-switch and I'll be happy :)

The great thing is: Neck is 100% straight, trussrod works, stays perfectly in tune, has no deadspots, the adjustable two point bridge also makes no problems and even the string mute and the bridge cover are still there and work well. Considering that I have only paid 500 euros for it, I count myself lucky :)


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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 11:23:09 PM »
Quote from: Sammy;16511
At first I have to admit what a lucky bastard I am! :-D
Considering that I have only paid 500 euros for it, I count myself lucky :)

I agree.
Nice one.
Pete

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 11:15:14 AM »
Yeah, a very good deal for 500 Euros. And a really nice bass. I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun playing this!
 
I recently got a similar Cherry Epiphone Rivoli actually. I'm in the middle of making some sound clips, but the pics of mine are here
 
https://www.flyguitars.com/epiphone/bass/1967EpiphoneRivoli.php

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 02:53:47 PM »
Thanks!
Yours looks absolutely awesome, congrats!

Yesterday the Rivoli and I had our first gig together. It was freezing cold outside, but it stayed in tune without problems, and my bandmates liked its looks and even the sound.
And as you might see, I think I'm one of the younger Rivoli-lovers :-D


And I also made a short video with the Bass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAsY7e-CMcU&feature=feedu
« Last Edit: November 13, 2011, 09:53:29 PM by Sammy »

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2011, 11:07:13 PM »
Nice work Sammy

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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2011, 09:37:40 PM »
Nice bass,nimble fingers there...good stuff!!

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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2011, 12:07:15 AM »
Yeah good clip - The Rivoli is looking, and sounding good.
 
All my loving is one of the beatles basslines I made a point of learning too. Just wish I could sing it at the same time (I can't)

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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2011, 08:33:29 AM »
Thanks :)
Yesterday I worked at the circuit - now the Dimarzio works as well, and sounds good!

I really like the Bassline of All my lovin', walkin' up and down the scale!
Fortunately I have no problem with singing while playing, but to manage that I really need to practise the line a few times :)

 

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