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PLEASE HELP with info on this Mark IV

PLEASE HELP with info on this Mark IV
« on: January 31, 2017, 09:16:45 PM »
I've had this bass for years , after doing some research lately I'm finding out it seems to be an oddball , It has a Frank Hessy Music store sticker inside, I can't find any pics of another like it !!  serial number 221380 Thanks for any insight !!

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PLEASE HELP with info on this Mark IV
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2017, 01:06:56 AM »
Hi, that's a really nice guitar! Mid 1965 most likely. At this point it's called the Mark IV acoustic - a brand new model at the time.

It would soon be associated with Bill Wyman, and become the Wyman bass - in the November '65 price list,  it's named the 'Wyman' bass, but in this advert from around the same time, it's just 'Acoustic version of the Mark IV'.
https://www.vintageguitarandbass.com/adDetails/295

Some of these basses were assembled in the UK, and have five digit serial numbers. Yours, having six, is an Italian model, made by Eko for Vox.

Great to see the Frank Hessy label - Hessy's was, of course, the Liverpool guitar shop where the Beatles bought their early guitars.

Really nice piece of music history..

PLEASE HELP with info on this Mark IV
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 02:26:57 AM »
Thanks for the insight, I assume  that it being an Italian model it isnt as valuable.      I would like to put the appropriate pickup back in the bridge position.  Do you think having the Frank Hessy sticker makes it more valuable ?

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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 10:13:24 PM »
Value is a difficult - there is nothing inherently 'better' about the UK vs the Italian guitars IMHO - the UK ones seem to sell for much more in the US, due to comparative rarity, rather than anything else.

Here in the UK, the Italian ones come up far less often, so the price difference is less noticeable.

There won't be many more basses the same as yours, so where it was made is perhaps less important.

The Hessy's label is very interesting, and gives it a certain provenance perhaps desirable to a collector - certainly something to talk about if you come to sell it! Not sure it would actually increase a sale price though.

Is it possible to get a better look at the label.. would be nice to see the whole thing.

pic of label
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 05:52:46 PM »
Quote from: jules;18952
Value is a difficult - there is nothing inherently 'better' about the UK vs the Italian guitars IMHO - the UK ones seem to sell for much more in the US, due to comparative rarity, rather than anything else.

Here in the UK, the Italian ones come up far less often, so the price difference is less noticeable.

There won't be many more basses the same as yours, so where it was made is perhaps less important.

The Hessy's label is very interesting, and gives it a certain provenance perhaps desirable to a collector - certainly something to talk about if you come to sell it! Not sure it would actually increase a sale price though.

Is it possible to get a better look at the label.. would be nice to see the whole thing.


Here is the best I can do with the pic

 

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