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Gibson "SG" variant ID....

Gibson "SG" variant ID....
« on: July 27, 2013, 04:37:06 PM »
Howdy…

 Can anyone out there help me identify which variant this SG is? At first I thought it was a heavily modified SG Junior, but after a bit of research I found a grainy photograph of another SG just like this one and apparently the natural headstock, pick guard and humbucker is stock! . Sadly, I found no written information. The S/N is 888030. Thanks a heap.

Update!

  I just discovered that this isn’t the original pickguard or pickup! After removing the pickguard a simple inspection gives obvious signs that this SG once had a Soap-Bar P-90 pickup; and to my horror a large cavity had been chiseled out of the body to allow a Humbucker!! So, apparently this (‘67) "SG Jr." never had the “pool” routing.

  Danny


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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 09:23:55 PM »
On the face of it, it looks like a 1969 SG Junior, or a 1969 single pickup melody maker - around this time, both had the wider (with wings) headstock. The screw positions for the pickguard were different in these models, and you should be able to work out which it is by looking at the hole locations - not easy to do from photos. Both were nice guitars, and finding parts would not be too hard - are you planning a restoration?

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 10:34:41 PM »
Jules…

Thanks so much for the information. I’m still not sure just exactly what this is?  Fist of all, did Melody Makers ever have soap bar pickups? This guitar originally did. And  underneath the pick guard is a sticker with the name of the little outfit that makes reproduction pick guards. First of all it’s a player, and as far as a “restoration” goes I would like to ad a correct pick guard (what ever that was?) and a soap-bar P-90, vibrola and Kluson keys with the plastic buttons (I like the look of the ol’ button tuners). Luckily, it still has the original finish; but I can’t tell if it’s walnut or cherry? Thanks again.

  Danny

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2013, 01:23:53 PM »
Hi Danny - if you are sure it had a P90 from stock (and it was not added at some point before the humbucker) then this is an SG Junior

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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2013, 12:29:33 AM »
Howdy, Jules...

After further inspection of the pick guard I found that there is no other/new screw holes that would give any indication of a SG Jr. bat-wing pick guard! In other words, there is only the hole pattern for a Melody maker pick guard; along with the natural headstock leads me to believe that this is in fact a Melody Maker, and at one time had a white pick guard and one (white) single coil pickup.

  Danny

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2013, 07:02:56 PM »
Hey, Jules…
   Well what do you think of it now? I “restored” it as good as I could. I managed to fine an original Melody maker single coil  pickup off of eBay for $60.00 bucks, and I had my brother make me a new  pick guard. I replaced the Grovers with “vintage” Kluson keys. The vibrola is an after-market thing.  After my brother (Mickey) adjusted the intonation and stuff it plays really well. I just thought you would be interested to have a peak at it after I had it fix up to look like a real Melody maker. Take it easy friend:-)[ATTACH=CONFIG]2655[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]2656[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]2657[/ATTACH]

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2013, 10:35:35 PM »
wow, good job! Seriously, I love it. You have to admit cream scratchplates on walnut look the bomb. One sweet looking guitar!

Gibson "SG" variant ID....
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2013, 11:40:03 PM »
Really nice!  Congrats

I'm glad you took it this direction :)

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2013, 03:15:51 PM »
Thank ya much:-) I agree, there’s something about a cream pick guard/scratchplate that goes real well on a walnut finish. For a guitar with one single coil pickup It plays and sounds pretty good. I will definitely be keeping this one...and It was my pleasure to share this project with you all.

  Danny

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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2013, 10:57:43 PM »
Nice job. I reckon that Gibson probably used the same bodies and routing for both the SG Jr. and Melody Makers around this time, i.e. early Norlin period? That would explain why the rout looked like a P-90 size.

 

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