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John Entwistle's RD Artist on ebay

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John Entwistle's RD Artist on ebay
« on: February 22, 2013, 12:31:40 PM »
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This bass is John Entwistle's RD Artist

An interesting early RD for sure - not sure i'd call it a prototype, but certainly one of the earliest

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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 04:20:15 PM »
Jules I have more info if you're interested.

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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2013, 12:21:25 PM »
Yes, of course i'm interested! I know it was shown in Bass Culture and ultimately he never really did much with it...

Actually I've still got an interview with Chuck Burge (one of the designers) on the development of the RD just waiting to be finished

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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 06:44:00 PM »
I've been in touch for over a month with the owner, I was really interested in the bass and we tried to work on a price. At the end it did not work out and he sold it to a Who fan in Sweden. He sent me higher resolution pictures (the same you see on the original ebay listing), I can forward them to you if you'd like. I found the original Sotheby's auction, it sold for only 3,360 GBP vs his Explorer for 95,200 GBP! I guess the fact that he hated the RD didn't help... The link is http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2003/the-john-entwistle-collection-w03875/lot.123.html. I also contacted Sotheby's to see if they would send me a higher resolution photo and they did, but they prohibited me from sharing it. Maybe if you ask and tell them about your website they'll allow you to use it.

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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 12:55:51 AM »
That is a surprising low amount compared with the explorer. But yes, I guess he is not known for playing the RD... but still, only about double what they go for in Europe.

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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 07:09:58 PM »
Yes it's not that much but there was a "premium" that the buyer had to pay to the auction house. And this is not the price he offered it to me either... he wanted a lot more money. But then you see eventually the future value will be affected by the bad relationship between John and the RD (it was supposed to be his signature bass correct?). You know which article I'm referring to?

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2013, 11:10:28 AM »
Quote from: kd_rome;17800
You know which article I'm referring to?
not sure, remind me :)

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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 01:15:34 PM »
You can see it in the listing, I think it's page 153 of the book.

"The result of a joint venture by Gibson and Roger Moog to produce the 'John Entwistle Bass'. Unfortunately, I didn't like it but it was released as the RD Artist Bass."

Who knows...if it was really supposed to be his signature bass and he ended up not signing an endorsement he must have really freaked out about the RD...

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/FINAL-OFFER-The-Who-John-Entwistles-1977-Prototype-Gibson-RD-Artist-bass-guitar-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/VxAAAOxyD5pRJor-/$(KGrHqN,!qcFEOWU6V0lBRJor-smkg~~60_12.JPG

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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2013, 12:28:17 AM »
Quote from: kd_rome;17807
Who knows...if it was really supposed to be his signature bass and he ended up not signing an endorsement he must have really freaked out about the RD...


I asked Chuck Burge about this in quite some detail a few years back.. I think development of the RD started with consultation with him - it was called the John Entwistle Spider bass in some Gibson literature in 1977 ( https://www.flyguitars.com/gibson/bass/RDartist_timeline.php ), but took a sufficiently long time that he had just moved on to different basses. By the time they had one for him, he'd found something he liked better...

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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2013, 12:52:40 AM »
Jules do you know who created the headstock logo and what it represents?

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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2013, 01:55:26 AM »
Yeah, it was Chuck Burge. He called it a flying f-hole; it's just an f-hole with wings. The lightening bolt through the middle signifies it's an active bass. He did one without the bolt for passive instruments too... He still had his original artwork he'd done for it - and several others headstock inlays, Les Paul 25 50, Explorer 2, Chet Atkins etc

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