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1963 CAR Precision Bass: Is this a refinish?

1963 CAR Precision Bass: Is this a refinish?
« on: February 23, 2011, 01:42:02 PM »
This guy  I know says it is original, he says the original owner swears it is original but I am still not sure...looking for a real aficionado to chime in here.

Notice the number "8" stamp and the "CAR" carve.

http://s165.photobucket.com/albums/u66/mrgibson01/1963%20Fender%20P-Bass/?start=all

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1963 CAR Precision Bass: Is this a refinish?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2011, 11:08:55 PM »
It is always hard to say with photos instead of in hand, but it looks good.  The decal, guard, neck plate and all look right for late 63.  The 8 and CAR are peculiar, but never say never for Pre-CBS Fender.  The neck pocket is as you would expect, and the white base coat is looking right as well.  It is very clean, and was well taken care of if it is all original.  The chip off the guard tip is a possible tip to refinning as when removed, they have to be screwed down to wood or they shrink.  Then when you try to screw them back on (after being off for a small time - like for the finish to dry and be reliced) they crack at the screw holes.  Just an observation, but the shrink back could have happened after it broke.

You could check in with the Reranch board for more finish-savy observations.

Good luck!
boom

Thanks!!
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2011, 11:34:25 PM »
Quote from: eb2;15477
It is always hard to say with photos instead of in hand, but it looks good.  The decal, guard, neck plate and all look right for late 63.  The 8 and CAR are peculiar, but never say never for Pre-CBS Fender.  The neck pocket is as you would expect, and the white base coat is looking right as well.  It is very clean, and was well taken care of if it is all original.  The chip off the guard tip is a possible tip to refinning as when removed, they have to be screwed down to wood or they shrink.  Then when you try to screw them back on (after being off for a small time - like for the finish to dry and be reliced) they crack at the screw holes.  Just an observation, but the shrink back could have happened after it broke.

You could check in with the Reranch board for more finish-savy observations.

Good luck!


Thanks...what is a Reranch board?

nevermind
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 01:18:00 AM »
I figured it out...me smart

Yes - it's original!
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2011, 01:07:51 AM »
Hi, bass dude!
Be lucky, I have an original CAR Preci, but an original Fender factory repainted one (I'm not using the word 'refin' on purpose...)
Mainly within 1962 and 1964, Fender used to grab ready laquered body out of the running production for giving them a repaint.
99% of the repainted bodies formerly had been olympic white ones.
Look at the screwholes of your bass and you will also discover this...

The new colour code (CAR, LPB and so on..) was burnt with a soldering-iron in the body wood. The digit is a serial that marks the number of the production order; also the neck must have been signed with that digit, maybe with a little paper-sheet, for finding the right neck to the body after repainting. Very often you also will see the 2 big "RR" also burnt in, which means "refin and restore". All the details you will find following this link:

http://home.provide.net/~cfh/fenderc.html

If any questíons left you can also send a personal mail to me:

basser[at]congstar.de

All the best
Det from Cologne (Germany)
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Sorry, a "typo"...
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2011, 01:12:20 AM »
Of course not I have the CAR-Preci, you have it....

(I'm just selling a Fender '64 Jazz bass LPB over oly-white, but sadly no factory repaint (missing the large paintstick mark and no colour- and digit marks on the body...)

Det
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