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baldwin burns baby bison

baldwin burns baby bison
« on: December 28, 2010, 11:43:29 AM »
please help , i have had this guitar for many years now , but can not find much infomation on it ,
wondered if there is anyone out there that could tell me more about it ,

it is a sun burst baldwin burns baby bison with scroll neck , in original condition and in excelent condition,
it is not a bass,

anywhere i could find out its value for insurance purposes ?

cheers , denise , :-D

baldwin burns baby bison
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 05:08:33 PM »
Hi Denise,  Well there's one on ebay with a V headstock...
 Burns-Baldwin-Baby-Bison-1966  

However that's from a dealer and seems ridiculously highly priced to me.   A similar one went for a lot less a couple of weeks ago...
 Vintage-Burns-Baby-Bison-Weird-12-string-oddity-No-Res  Although I'm not sure if this was a hybrid or original.  

Most original Baldwin guitars fetch around the £300-£400 region; however the only sure way to find out is to advertise it on ebay with a reserve of say £300 and see if there is any interest. Remember most of the bidding is done in the last few minutes these days on ebay.  

Hope that helps a little.

Mike.
Retired Radio and Electronics Engineer residing in Cambridgeshire.

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 05:38:43 PM »
It's worth about £4-500, therefore it should be insured for 6-700, to be sure of having enough to replace it if it were stolen.

Mike, that second listing is totally butchered and barely anything to do with an original Burns/Baldwin so can't be used to judge value, but yes, the first one is OTT, pricewise.

baldwin burns baby bison
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 06:17:05 PM »
Denise, all I can tell you is this: I've had one of these guitars for many years, and I once went to a guitar exposition in Dallas where a dealer from the UK had a booth. He told me it was "bloody rubbish" so I've never worried about its value. Mine's a "tobacco sunburst" color and also has the "Rezo-Tune vibrato. Other dealers have said that if it were in their store they'd sell it for around $800. But what I particularly like about it is that it's very comfortable to play and that like most Baldwin guitars I've seen, it has what's called a "zero" fret, and the nut is in place only to keep the strings in line. As such when a player uses the vibrato it doesn't go out of tune as do other guitars. That IMO is a technique that other manufacturers have yet to snap to, but in any case, I'm keeping this one. My only complaint is the Burns single-coil pickups don't sound to my taste, and I may install some better ones, probably the Gibson-style P-90 "dog-ear" types.

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2012, 10:54:23 PM »
Might I humbly suggest that p90s would be a bad idea, unless there were some way of making it a reversible mod, or selling it and buying one that's already been butchered?

Despite that dealers low opinion of Burns/Baldwin stuff, he's very much in the minority, they are very collectible vintage instruments, now heading towards their fiftieth year...


That said- I do know what you mean about those later single coils...they aren't all that BUT the slightly earlier and legendary Burns Trisonic pickups should fit without any mods, and they are pretty fat sounding, powerful things...pretty close to a p90, actually!

baldwin burns baby bison
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 11:15:33 PM »
MGEEK, since I posted that I've disassembled it further, and find that the control cavity is somewhat butchered in that one of the screw holes chipped away material on one side, and another completely missed the wood so that someone glued a small block of wood for it. Same story on the mounting bar beneath the Rezo Tube. In addition, some time back the bridge pickup opened and was inoperative. I had it rewound but the plastic encapsulation was replaced rather haphazardly. I think I need to replace the control panel cover and try to remake it to correct those two errors. Meanwhile I'll start a search for a pair of Trisonic pickups.
But in your opinion, do the imperfections described above place this guitar in the "butchered" category already?

 

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