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« on: December 25, 2008, 03:01:01 AM »
It's just not the right time to be buying a new bass for me - 6 months back when the exchange rate was better I would have been all over this Cherry Sunburst Ripper

It is a bit modded, but nothing undoable.... Have we seen this before? There certainly aren't many about in this finish

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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2008, 11:48:09 PM »
I've only ever seen one before. Mark Evans of AC/DC had one:

http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=eiBMltWg2RQ

http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=q4cLeWi8Al0


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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2008, 10:44:37 AM »
I saw one on eBay just once... Didn't have any extra money then, and I don't have some now... :(

Looks nice though :)
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2008, 05:33:52 AM »
Yeah i've seen at least one or more on ebay (it is hard to remember isn't it) but didn't save pictures. This sold quickly - someone got a good deal I think.

Damn that plummetting exchange rate!

Cherry Burst Ripper
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2008, 09:46:14 AM »
Jules,

You have to admit that when you have the chance, you just have to enjoy the exchange rates...
I'm from Belgium, where a pretty steady Euro is used and when an exchange rate drops (like the US Dollar did a while ago and the British Pound is doing now) I and many people with me are scanning every site we know to get a good bargain :)
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2008, 01:01:50 AM »
Oh, I forgot about the prototype:


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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 08:35:29 PM »
Quote from: jules
This sold quickly - someone got a good deal I think.


That was me!  Been looking for one of these for quite some time now.  Currently waiting anxiously for it to arrive.

FWIW, I'm thinking that the ridiculously low production figure of 5 is questionable.  This is the second CB Ripper I've had...the first was a refin (s**t brown, of course!).  Maybe more like 50?  So far, I've seen three on the 'bay and a couple others in the possession of dealers.
Play the big dumb notes and the little smart notes will take care of themselves.

Cherry Burst Ripper
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2008, 08:27:29 PM »
I just realized that the production figure of 5 was for Tobacco Sunburst. :oops:

Here is a picture of one from an Austrailian website earlier this year.  Looks a bit darker.  I seem to remember that they were asking around $2800 AUD.



Play the big dumb notes and the little smart notes will take care of themselves.

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2008, 09:07:37 PM »
Yeah, I think i've seen a handful on ebay, but certainly not many. They are not listed on the ripper shipping totals, so it's anybodies guess how many there are. I'd say 50 might be a bit high, but like I say i'm guessing. As far as I can remember, all i've seen were the early body shape.

Congrats on the score - a good deal, and the most desireable ripper variant in my opinion.

Will you refret it?

Cherry Burst Ripper
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2008, 09:35:51 PM »
Dukeplaysbass had one- gave him a bridge for it

Dont know what became of it

http://badassbassplayers.com/forum/view ... f=8&t=6918

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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2008, 11:03:05 PM »
Quote from: jules
Will you refret it?


Yes, I think so.  I'm curious about the condition of the fingerboard.  Will post some pics when it comes in.
Play the big dumb notes and the little smart notes will take care of themselves.

Cherry Burst Ripper
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2008, 08:43:08 AM »
That's an excellant buy, congrats! The only one I remember seeing on Ebay is one a US shop was selling a few years back. At the time it seemed high priced for a Ripper but with hindsight I wish I'd brought it  :cry:

I hadn't seen that prototype before, I really like that body shape.

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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2009, 10:16:10 PM »
Well, all I can say is I wanted a project and I sure got one!  In addition to having been defretted, this one also had a truss rod break at the nut.  The neck has a pronounced bow with no tension on it and the fingerboard has lifted a bit around the 12th fret.  A friend and I were able to remove some wood to expose the broken end of the truss rod and enough thread to get a Fender style nut and washer to thread on.  There are only about 6 threads so the rod torques out fairly quickly and doesn't do much towards correcting the warp.  The neck does not appear to be twisted and I may be able to use heat to create some back bow.  Failing that, I guess I could try to cut some more threads.

Serial number is 102562.  The fingerboard is in good enough condition to warrant a refret if I can get the neck to straighten out.  The pots date to the 42nd week of 1973.  The neck pup is some kind of stack coil, the cavity has been routed only a little.  The pickguard has been replaced and the tuners have been patched up with a variety of different screws.  Quite a bit of rust, grime, and corrosion from the Texas environment.  Pretty typical stuff. I am cautiously optimistic.






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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 09:54:40 AM »
I really like the colour of this bass.

Hope you can repair the neck and refret it.

This one will keep you busy for awhile!

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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2009, 11:19:08 PM »
Quote from: barend
Hope you can repair the neck and refret it.

I hope so too.  Next week, I'm taking a repair guy who has a neck warmer.  Will post an update.
Play the big dumb notes and the little smart notes will take care of themselves.

 

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