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'60s Egmond Princess Bass

'60s Egmond Princess Bass
« on: November 10, 2008, 04:47:40 PM »
Hi guys,

About an hour ago a man walked in the store and asked me for some info on an old hollow body bass. The bass he was holding was a Dutch Egmond Princess from the early or mid sixties. Paul McCartney used to play one in hisearly days...

It was completely original but had loads of oxidation and lacked a nut. He wanted 200€ for it, so I bought it for 100€ :p
I just hope I can find a proper case for it,I'm guessing an Epiphone Jack Cassady case should fit...

Anyone has some more info about this type of bass?
Google doesn't offer a lot of answers...

Pics will be posted as soon as I have some myself...

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'60s Egmond Princess Bass
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2008, 11:03:37 AM »
Hi DeGecko, interesting post. As it happens, I recently paid about £20 for an Egmond bass. It has a hollow body, two cutaways, a clear gloss finish on the top of the body and a brown finish on the sides and underneath. The guy I bought it from reckoned that his dad got it in Belgium a long while back. Apparently it's from 1964- so getting on a bit. I have no real idea what it's worth, or anything else about it for that matter.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008, 01:37:15 PM »
Hi Stevo,

When looking at 2nd hand sites they go for about 100 or 200€ so the price was quite ok.
Egmond was a Dutch brand and is well spread through the Netherlands and Belgium... Other than the things you told me I have no more info about it except for the fact that it's fully original. (mind I had to replace the nut...)
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008, 01:39:19 PM »
That is a nice looking semi bass. How does it sound?

Gecko, do you have a pic of yours? Is it the same model?

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008, 01:43:35 PM »
It's identical t the one above, yet some of the metal parts don't look too well. It has been on an attock for years and years so...

It sounds very deep and round, kind of like a double bass (also 'cause it has flatwounds on it).

As I said in the original post: Paul McCartney used to play one in the (very) early days ;-) they're cheap, or litteraly not worth anything in money, and have quite a thick and fragile neck, but they sound great...

I'll post a pic when I have the chance to take one ;-)
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2008, 07:17:48 PM »
I forgot to mention in my last post that there was a serial number on the back of the headstock: 28200049. Does anyone here have any idea if it means anything; is there a standard key or similar for all serial numbers, or is this particular type specific to Egmonds?
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 10:26:37 PM »
Mine has a serial on the back of the headstock too. It's at my work so I can't post it now...

I've read on a forum or a site that it's impossible to date Egmonds by serial number. They should tell us some things, but I have no idea what...
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2008, 11:29:03 AM »
Hi guys,

Vladimir (our technician at work) adjusted the neck on my Princess and it plays great now. All that needs to be done now is changing the pots 'cause they didn't survive 30 years on an attic :)

As far as the serial goes, mine is 28600148. If anyone has any info on it, please let me know.

Hoping to be able to post some pics soon too :)
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2008, 05:29:18 AM »
Quote from: DeGecko
Hoping to be able to post some pics soon too :)


Yeah please do - are Egmond still going?

This page http://egmondguitars.com/ sort of suggests that they will be back in 2009?

Anyone got any info on this?

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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2008, 10:08:20 AM »
Yeah,

I kinda have the same problem...
As far as I know they existed since 1935 and stopped somewhere in the early seventies. Their highs were somewhat in de fifties and sixties...

The info on Egmond on the web is also limited to some forum posts and one or two fansites... :(
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2008, 10:11:57 AM »
Stevo:

Would you happen to have a close-up pic of the bridge?
That's the only thing I'm not sure of conscerning originality...

I replaced the nut myself, pots need to be replaced too. The rest is fuly original.

 The bridge on mine seems to be wider than your one, and in its lowest position it has a good hight, but it seems to be an aftermarket bridge for some Hofner types or so...
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2009, 01:36:22 PM »
hmm,

You guys think it would be possible / easy to rewire this as an EB-2.
I have to replace the wiring and all the pots so...

If so, does anyone have a schematic and tips about which pots to use?

Thanks guys.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 03:00:22 AM »
Quote from: DeGecko
You guys think it would be possible / easy to rewire this as an EB-2.


Depends... first you need to get the tone choke - that was in a hole under the bridge in the EB2.

To reproduce the electronics entirely would be tricky I think. You'd get a good deal of the way by replacing the pickups with EB humbuckers.

But you could also go further and improve on the EB2 - there are EB humbucker mods discussed on this forum that you could consider.

I'm currently restoring another EB3 that will get this treatment

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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2009, 02:48:17 PM »
Nah, the pups are quite allright (and still original).
It's just that I need 4 knobs with a function each... I guess I'll just have them Volume 1+2 and Tone 1+2 or so...Don't really know what the switches are for and wether I'll have them work again or not though...
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2009, 01:07:08 PM »
Allright, we opened up the bass today. The controls appear to be a volume- and a tone-pot per pickup, and an on/of switch each.

Now there was a problem with a broken winding in the bridge pup :s, but luckily our technician isn't just some technician (he's more or less the best techincian in the country...) and he's working on it right now...

I guess I'll be keeping the controls original (as in the same pots and functions, not the original, fully oxidized pots...) and hope for the best...
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