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« on: March 01, 2011, 05:27:44 AM »
I would like to ask if anyone has much experience with Mesa Engineering products. I recently purchased new a Titan V-12 head with a 4/10-15 cab. I have been using it in the rock band and have gigged it once. It has quit me twice now, the first time the 15 went south, and now the head just quit. I paid a king's ransom for this rig and really expected better reliability. When it works it is amazing giving my old EBO a flavor that can't be beat. I have been reading up on these amps and it appears I am not alone with these problems. I have posted on the Mesa forum and nobody will comment. The head is now at the repair shop and I am waiting to hear what it's problem is. Any input is appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2011, 02:25:33 AM »
I've had my Mesa Bass 400+ for 15 years now, no problems at all. No idea about the newer products.

The Mesa forum seems to be about 99.9% guitarists.

Mesa
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2011, 05:03:56 AM »
Thanks Dave
Everyone told me to buy Mesa if I could afford it. I see them being used by some pretty big name people. I also wanted to buy made in USA so it was an easy choice. They do stand by the stuff I will give them that. I sold a beautiful English Sunbeam auto to fund it. I do miss that car.

Mesa
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2011, 05:16:14 AM »
The local tech said it is going into self protect mode whatever the f%$# that is. These V12's are way too complicated. Not happy with Mesa right now. It is on it's way back to Mesa because it is too complicated for the local repairman. I bought the POS so nobody to blame but me. Back to the old and very very reliable 1968 Fender Bassman.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2011, 05:18:52 AM by vortilon »

Why my Mesa sucks?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2011, 05:09:31 PM »
Young man (I can say that because I am 62 and still playing)
You said you spent a lot of money on your Mesa. Did you ever investigate what is in the amp in the first place? I have seen not only mesa products but many many more high dollar amps with printed circuit boards and that should never be on a high end guitar amp. The only Boogie products that were really special were the Fender Princeton mods made by Randall Smith in the chicken coop way back when he started his company. I'm not busting on Mesa Boogie, but as with so many companies they seem to have lost their soul over the years. My mesa mark III was very heavy and it seemed the only real personality it had was the ability to get real loud. If that's what flip's your trigger then go for it. Also please note the amps I talk about and love are designed to be used in a real pro environment. IE a place where your amp is mic'd (I like a Senn 609 or a 906), your stage monitors are real.
You do not need loud in music you need tone. Did I say tone!
Never purchase if you can afford it any guitar amp that has printed circuit boards in it.
I have had a lot of great amps in my life and I have to say the two best were a "Trainwreck" made by the late Ken Fisher and my "Divided By 13" made by Mr Fred Toccone (pictured by a classic design amp he made for Billy gibbons of ZZ Top)(http://www.dividedby13.com). Both amps were hand wired, hand soldered, tube works of art and sonic nervanna. Both of the amps I mentioned were a very rare item. They were both made by only one man one amp at a time. My amp was expensive around $3000.00 but everyone who hears it go holy s&*t I have never heard tone like that. Please note "what is expansive if your dropping a grand every year or so." The only people who win at that are the music store owners who will take your money in a heartbeat and know they will see you in a year or so for another cookie cutter amp. Even the producer and chief engineer at the studio I record at in Philly said they never had a amp sit right in the mix like my amp. They trim the input and use little or no EQ at all.
My point is you have to really investigate before you pic a amp. Do not trust a retailer, or a big named rocker, etc. Trust your ear, your heart and your ability to afford a real high end product.

Mesa
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2011, 05:14:20 PM »
If you forget the "KISS" principal in life or music your screwed.
If a amp has more than a very basic compliment of controls that means there are many more fences for your tone to jump over.
Why was the old Ampeg SVT or the even older B-15 such tone monsters? They were very simple set ups and easy to operate.

Mesa
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2011, 12:31:23 PM »
Mac
Well said, I have played my bassman for the time being but 50W just isn't cutting it. I almost did something very stupid (again) I was thinking of trading it to the store I bought the mesa at for something with more watts. Their greed was the only thing that brought me to my senses, they wanted to give me $200 credit for it. All I could say was YGTBSM! They are in the biz to make money I know but I felt very unimportant when they made that offer after spending 4k there. My solution was to buy a new 300w behringer made in China for $225 and keep the bassman. The Chinese amp sounds pretty good for the money. I wish I had just purchased a larger tube amp in the first place. I would still have thousands in my pocket and it would still be working.

Mesa
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2013, 12:38:29 PM »
Quote from: vortilon;15501
I would like to ask if anyone has much experience with Mesa Engineering products. I recently purchased new a Titan V-12 head with a 4/10-15 cab. I have been using it in the rock band and have gigged it once. It has quit me twice now, the first time the 15 went south, and now the head just quit. I paid a king's ransom for this rig and really expected better reliability. When it works it is amazing giving my old EBO a flavor that can't be beat. I have been reading up on these amps and it appears I am not alone with these problems. I have posted on the Mesa forum and nobody will comment. The head is now at the repair shop and I am waiting to hear what it's problem is. Any input is appreciated.


Ive not experienced that model but heard a few stories about Mesa guitar amp heads eating valve for breakfast. Both were Triple Rectifiers I think.

 

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