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'67 Country Gent

'67 Country Gent
« on: April 10, 2010, 08:48:55 PM »
Hey folks,

Im selling my '67 original country gent & case.  Really struggling to find a buyer which Im surprised at.  Had a few bits of interest locally but no actual buyer.

Firstly, Anyone interested?  
Secondly, Any suggestion with where to sell this? - really dont want to use ebay as it costs a hefty whack and I find it doesnt work too well for these types of items anyways.

Its an absolutely awesome guitar.  100% original.  had neck damage but repaired superbly 3 years ago.  Original binding fully intact.  Case is in excellent condition aswell.

Im fairly familiar with gretsch price range and related info.  Ive listed it for £2,500 on the 'ebay listing' part of the forum.

sorry if this is shameless plugging of my advert but curious to know expert opinions on value and possible locations to sell.

cheers

Andy (new forum type person)

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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 09:56:24 PM »
It's difficult really...if you were a bit closer to London, I'd suggest sticking it in one of the shops on Denmark street on consignment

Is £2500 about the going rate? That's a pretty big spend for a lot of people 'at the moment', and it's quite a 'niche' guitar when most of the world is so obsessed with bloomin' Fenders and Gibsons,  so I can fully understand it taking a while to find a buyer.

Have you listed it on preloved and gumtree?

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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 12:56:59 PM »
Quote from: andymac;13539
sorry if this is shameless plugging of my advert but curious to know expert opinions on value and possible locations to sell.

Hi Andy,
 
I fully approve of shameless plugging in this forum - just as long as you are providing images to keep us entertained and informed - and you have done. Although the ebay section is for ebay adds. Other adverts should go in the free vintage guitar classifieds section
 
As Mgeek says... this is not necessarily going to sell quickly, because there are only so many people with thousands of pounds just sitting there.
 
And is that really the going rate for a private sale? I'd say it was a little ambitious, especially with the headstock damage. But I haven't been slavishly studying Country Gent prices. I notice there is an unbroken '64 not selling on ebay for £2700.....
 
I have noticed some dealers having problems selling Gretsches recently though.... maybe because people who want them, often already have them. Maybe they are just not as in vogue amongst players as they once were. I hear more about people trying to sell old Gretsches than to buy. Were they overvalued a few years back? Is it just a temporary thing?
 
If it were mine I'd take a LOT more photos. Get a free photo hosting account and fill it with 50 high resolution images. Photo absolutely every inch of it, and leave NOTHING to question. Then advertise it everywhere... this (and other) forums, gumtree, vintage guitar classifieds, etc. And wait.
 
Good luck, it is a nice guitar, and I hope you find it a good new home

eb2

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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 05:06:34 AM »
I always get confused with the shillings and pounds, but that seems hefty.  But maybe a few years ago it would have gone like a hot potato.  Jules hits it on the head though: if you really wanted one of these you probably have one.  And the vintage market is taking some serious hits now. The guitars that were secondary - not Strats, Teles, or Les Paul - have been plummeting to earth over the last couple of years, and more quickly of late.  Even things like 50s LP Specials and Jrs are way down and not moving.  A 60's Country Gent will probably always be in demand, but it spent the majority of the early vintage craze as a value-less guitar.  So when so many old Strats, etc are getting on the market by their over-leveraged owners, the secondary guitars go wanting, and a broken headstock is a major downer these days.

My local vintage dealer has turned into a bit of a ghost town, and the attention I got there a couple of weeks ago was astounding.  A few years back you had to have the Ben Franklins stuck to your forehead or they wouldn't even look at you.  Now they are running around waiting on me like Geisha girls!  And stuff is sitting around.  They are cutting deals.  Times are tough all over.
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'67 Country Gent
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2010, 07:55:03 AM »
Same over here in the UK eb2; all but the most desirable have dropped by 30-50% in price.
However Rickys seem to be going up for some strange reason; obviously got more popular.
Certainly not the time to sell unless you're very hard up for money. :frown:
Mike.
Retired Radio and Electronics Engineer residing in Cambridgeshire.

'67 Country Gent
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2010, 01:48:01 PM »
That's a nice guitar. Myself I would have had the back of the neck refinished so the break in the neck becomes a non issue. I know that is a huge no no mentioning the refinishing word in the vintage world. Maybe just a touch up :-D. I think this obsession with leaving these vintage guitars with all the scars and crack-a-lacquer is stupid. Like a rusty vintage car being worth more than a restored car it's nonsense.

But hey it's like a very successful friend of mine says " give them what they want not what they need, we know what they need, it's not what they want".

'67 Country Gent
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2010, 04:57:43 PM »
It's like all antiques; including vintage guitars; people just like them as original as possible. Try selling a 19th century bronze statue that's just been cleaned with metal polish; you wouldn't even get a bid.

I always used to do what I called sympathetic restoration on old guitars; just enough to clean them up and make them presentable; that increased the value over a mucky, dusty guitar straight from the loft.

I personally like to see the odd dig on a sixties guitar; it's part of it's character, although others may like to see it as a brand new one.

Mike.
Retired Radio and Electronics Engineer residing in Cambridgeshire.

'67 Country Gent
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2010, 10:55:24 PM »
Quote from: Repairman77;13852
It's like all antiques; including vintage guitars; people just like them as original as possible. Try selling a 19th century bronze statue that's just been cleaned with metal polish; you wouldn't even get a bid.

I always used to do what I called sympathetic restoration on old guitars; just enough to clean them up and make them presentable; that increased the value over a mucky, dusty guitar straight from the loft.

I personally like to see the odd dig on a sixties guitar; it's part of it's character, although others may like to see it as a brand new one.

Mike.


Mike your right but it makes no sense to me. My Step Mother collected antiques and I remember her buying refinishing paint that gave it the antique look. I think it looked terrible and could not figure why anyone would want that. Each to there own I suppose. I know everytime I open my guitar case and see my refinished EBO it brings joy. Even the frets sparkle.
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'67 Country Gent
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2010, 09:01:45 AM »
Even the frets sparkle.

Yes I always do the frets; I have a small brass plate with a slot cut out that fits over the fret and I polish it with 0000 grade steel wool. Stops accidentally marking the fretboard. Don't try this on Rickys though as some have lacquered frets as well as the fretboard. ;-)

I think the type of restoration depends on whether you are restoring to play or restoring to sell on as a collector's item. In the latter case sympathetic restoration is the best way to go to maintain it's value.

Mike..
Retired Radio and Electronics Engineer residing in Cambridgeshire.

 

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