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VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...

VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...
« on: December 05, 2009, 04:09:52 PM »
Hi,

I think of it for a long time now. Does anyone knows the story of the different body designs from Starstream VI to Starstream XII ? The same bodies were used for Starstream VI and Mark XII acoustic, so why not for the Starstream XII ? Why the need of a new body design ?

Starstream VI:


Starstream XII:


Mark XII acoustic:

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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 07:54:01 PM »
Hi David
 
Are you just talking about the body binding?
 
The '68 Thomas organ Vox catalogue shows both 6 and 12 string starstreams without body binding

VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 08:44:35 PM »
Quote from: jules;12603
Hi David
 
Are you just talking about the body binding?
 
The '68 Thomas organ Vox catalogue shows both 6 and 12 string starstreams without body binding

I have this catalog but check the photo below of a Starstream XII body. The Starstream VI has the classic VOX hollow teardrop body (same as wyman bass ...) with top, back and side. The Starstream XII body is different from all the other VOX teardrop hollow bodies : it has a back, but the sides and top seems to be a one piece. Notice the curve between top and side of the body, notice the neck pocket which is different too ... These bodies are only on Starstream XII ...

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2009, 10:34:31 PM »
Quote from: sploshette;12604
it has a back, but the sides and top seems to be a one piece. Notice the curve between top and side of the body, notice the neck pocket which is different too ... These bodies are only on Starstream XII ...


Quite like a Rick. Maybe Vox were going for the Rickenbacker 12 string market that was so popular just then.

I'm not entirely convinced that the '68 catalogue starstream 6-string doesn't have the same body though. Not that catalogue images really prove anything about production models of course.

VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2009, 08:54:13 AM »
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Quite like a Rick. Maybe Vox were going for the Rickenbacker 12 string market that was so popular just then.

I'm not entirely convinced that the '68 catalogue starstream 6-string doesn't have the same body though. Not that catalogue images really prove anything about production models of course.

Yeah, this catalog shows a lot of differences on several guitars between "real" produced guitars and the prototypes pictured ...
The mistery is still open because they were very prone to reuse "old" designs" and this unique body shape still intrigue me ;-)

VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2009, 11:07:00 AM »
I think most manufacturers in the 60's and 70's used up all the old parts, bodies and necks, so you used to get a variety of styles all labelled as the same model.

If you read the big Ricky book you'll see the same thing occurring; there were literally hundreds of variations of commonly named models; they never threw away any parts from obsolete models, just used them on something else.

Mike.
Retired Radio and Electronics Engineer residing in Cambridgeshire.

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2009, 11:25:16 PM »
Just looking through a '68 price list.
 
The Ultrasonic XII was $25 more than the Ultrasonic
The Starstream XII was $75 more than the Starstream
 
The hardware differences are the same: so that's $25.
 
So that leaves $50 for the different body...

VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 03:22:07 PM »
Quote from: jules;12616
Just looking through a '68 price list.
 
The Ultrasonic XII was $25 more than the Ultrasonic
The Starstream XII was $75 more than the Starstream
 
The hardware differences are the same: so that's $25.
 
So that leaves $50 for the different body...

I would be highly interested by the price list you talk about. Where can I see it ?

I ask to myself if the Starstream unique body design has something to do with higher tension of 12 strings or was easier to build than classic VOX teardrop hollow body or was an ergonomic improvment ?

VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2009, 09:41:08 PM »
Quote from: jules;12608
Quite like a Rick. Maybe Vox were going for the Rickenbacker 12 string market that was so popular just then.

I'm not entirely convinced that the '68 catalogue starstream 6-string doesn't have the same body though. Not that catalogue images really prove anything about production models of course.

I think you're right.
The Rick comparison is so right to me as I just received my VOX Starstream XII yesterday. The body contour on front is comparable to a Rick, the simplified "F-hole" has something of a Rick too. More the unusual finish (for a VOX guitar) is really close to a Rick's fireglo ... So the success of Rick 12 string might be a lot in this body design.

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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2009, 12:52:11 AM »
I have a starstream XII with all the distortion, wah wah, tuner etc that
I have owned for almost 30 years and have never played. I'd like to sell it I think so that someone could enjoy it but I have no idea what I should ask for it. It plays ok as far as I know but it has some damage to the finish on the body. any idea?

VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2009, 07:02:09 AM »
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I have a starstream XII with all the distortion, wah wah, tuner etc that
I have owned for almost 30 years and have never played. I'd like to sell it I think so that someone could enjoy it but I have no idea what I should ask for it. It plays ok as far as I know but it has some damage to the finish on the body. any idea?

Post here some hi-res pictures of the guitar. Don't miss to feature the damages you talk about.

VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2009, 03:52:57 PM »
my Vox is exactly the same as the XII that you show here but it is beat up a bit on the bottom. i will take photos and get them on here. thanks

Such Beauty!
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2010, 11:04:49 AM »
Those 2 12 strings are beautiful! A 12 string is my favorite guitar to play.
Just had to post a reply about these.
The only Vox I have is a Cheetah Deluxe made in Italy.

VOX Starstream VI and XII different bodies ...
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2010, 04:39:09 AM »
Maybe it had something to do with the new effects control panel and the electronics underneath?

Or maybe Eko got a good overstock deal on slightly different bodies from one of their vendors.

Even with the Phantoms and Marks, little running changes were popping up all the time.  Tom Jennings probably called them improvements.

 

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