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sg new vs old

loz

sg new vs old
« on: March 03, 2004, 01:30:29 PM »
I see the latest SGs are almost identical to the 'old' ones. They are also ?1000+

If you've got a grand to burn (hey one day) would a vintage sound better than a modern? Would it be as playable?

Thanks

Loz

sg new vs old
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2007, 09:08:59 AM »
I owned a '62 SG/LP and a '67 SG Standard. Unfortunately sold both of them about ten years ago.

Last month I tried out the SG/LP RI.  Dissappointed both in the sound (especially as compared to the original '62) and the action ('67 was super). They look more or less the same, but the sound has little color and depth, and the neck doesn't seem to help but rather to hinder.

Interestingly enough a friend purchased a brand new ES335 in the same store.  You'd think that there would be even more of a difference with the semi-hollow bodies, but surprise, it turns out to be a superb instrument, as good as his old '70 335.

So if one wants new, I'd save up and get a 335, or else eBay an older SG, the most affordable good ones being the SG Standards and Specials of the early-mid 70's

sg new vs old
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2007, 11:31:48 AM »
My first SG I bought in 1976 - made around 72,73.  Had a Bigsby.  Sold it in 1979.  My recollection was that it was well balanced (did not neck dive) and sounded "rock" and had lots of sustain. Wish I still had it...

My next SG I bought new in 2004. Was a beautiful midnight blue Supreme version.  '57 humbuckers were absolutely wonderful...BUT - the 24 fret version was poorly balanced - neck always wanted to dive.  Sure it was a lot better for my back that my current PRS Single Cut but had NO SUSTAIN at all.  I like sustain.

I tried a mid '90s 61 reissue.  boring!..

A thing to remember about SGs is that they are very light.  I have seen quite a few with damage - often they fall and the jack is ripped out.lifting the top...also quite a few neck repairs.  if it is in good shape and sounds like you want buy it.  I do love those '57 humbuckers though....

I think they look sh*^ hot! Always loved their look....

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loz

sg new vs old
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2007, 04:43:48 PM »
Quote from: Franklin
Last month I tried out the SG/LP RI.  Dissappointed both in the sound (especially as compared to the original '62) and the action ('67 was super).


Hi Franklin

thank you. What do you atribute this to? is it the wood and the pickups or just a matter of a set up.

I hear lots of horror stories about Gibsons factory set ups. Makes me wonder why the shops don't do it themselves, if they want them to sell.

Or do you think new wood and unaged pickups just are not as good (yet?)

Loz

gtate

sg set ups
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2007, 05:08:42 PM »
Quote from: loz
I hear lots of horror stories about Gibsons factory set ups. Makes me wonder why the shops don't do it themselves, if they want them to sell.


I think sometimes its luck what you get, because I have played some really easy players in shop, and some nightmares. Back in the day a guitar shop made sure each instrument was at its best, because sales were usually face to face, and quantities comparitively small. The person selling the guitar had a bit more knowledge and could get that guitar sounding right. Today everything is mass produced, and so much more is mail order, the personal touch that can really make a difference is lost.

Scott

old verses new
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2010, 08:34:14 PM »
My first SG was a 68 Standard. Fantastic guitar! I could still kick myself for letting that one go. Right now I'm playing a 1970s' SG Deluxe, not as well known, but one heck of a players guitar. In my opinion I prefer the older Gibsons all the way around. The hands on is the difference. Todays guitars are way to mass produced to keep the same standards. I got to build guitars with Gerard Melancon ( Melancon Guitars) and one of the things I learned from him is the angle of the neck when it is installed has a lot to do with how the action is going to be on the guitar. That's why you see a lot of guitars having what they call a neck set where they remove the neck and reset it at the proper angle or degree to make it play better. Just my humble opinion. All in all it boils down to what you like.

 

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