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Mutant Vintage Gibson SG

Mutant Vintage Gibson SG
« on: January 01, 2008, 07:23:00 PM »
Right, I'm new around here, you all seem to know a lot about vintage guitars and the like. I have a bit of a monster here, I have been playing it for a number of years without much thought to what it is. It is a gibson SG. The question I am asking is what sort of SG is it? Right here are the pictures - I urge you to look at them all, as there is quite a lot to be seen here. I will post the first as a picture and the rest as direct links to them on photobucket. (The pics are a little on the large side)

Edit: - No volute on the back of the neck/head.

This is the first picture - It is the whole thing in all it's glory:


Each Slab Of Text After This Is A Link To The Photo Being Described.

The second picture is of the body - Not a huge amount to say about this. Not original pickups (now Mighty Mite in the bridge, PAF Pro on the neck). Not (obviously) the original pick gaurd.

This is the back of the body of the guitar. Notes - Asymmetry of the cutout/horn shape. Shape of the control route - and the fact it's on the back (pre- '71?).

Another shot of the back of the guitar - more attention paid to the control route. This detail changes on different SGs so I thought I'd post it just in case it helps. Another note - this is a one piece honduras mahogany body (Swietenia)

Now on to the neck. This neck is super narrow, but also pretty damn deep. Feels like half a baseball bat. The picture shows the width at the 5th fret.

Another veiw of the neck, this time side on. As I said - DEEP. Another thing on this photograph is the frets - super low but quite wide frets. I dont know if this is stock, if they have worn, or filed perhaps? They feel as if they have been painted on, the action is very low and this all makes for an amazing player. Also note that the fretboard is unbound - brazilian rosewood (Dalbergia)

Headstock - Thought this might be nice to see - note non-original roller bridge. Also may help to give an ID to this guitar.

This is the back of the headstock. The original machine heads appear to have been 3 on a strip. The serial number dates about '68/'69 (6 digit starting with 8 )

The join between the neck and the body (front veiw). The distance between the top of the body and the top of the fretboard at the join is much bigger than on the SGs with stock humbuckers - this makes me think that the original pickups were surface mounted P90s

Non-original roller bridge. Note the two dark filled patches where the original stood.These holes are perpendicular to the strings (not slanted). If someone could tell me what sort of bridge this should be that would be great.

Another thing that changes from sg to sg is the control layout (ie how close the jack socket is to the edge of the guitar) Sorry for the poor quality of this picture although it feels worthwile.

What appears to be an original bigsby - that is to say that there are no "holes" where say a stoptail may have once been.

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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2008, 01:04:43 AM »
Hi Thomas,

Thats a nice old guitar. In my opinion, it is most likely a late sixties/very early seventies Melody Maker D

At this time they looked like this



(taken from the 1970 Gibson solid-bodies catalogue)

The Bigsby may be original - they were quite widely used on SGs in the early seventies, and although it is not advertised as a feature here, it could still be stock.

Have you looked at the pots to get a date? They were made up until 1970 (though all, except the earliest 1970s, will have MADE IN USA under the serial number)

Well worth restoring, if you can find the original parts (shouldn't be too hard on ebay)

 

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